Santandercol
1219 posts
Jul 09, 2007
10:15 PM
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Hey Jon,
I see on your who's who?post there you're a USDA wildlife specialist.Can you give us all any advice on dealing with multi pairs of peregrines living within a 5 mile radius of a guys home and attacking his rollers and racing pigeons all the summer months??Just curious if you had any input on this seeing how you must know something about it.Thanks.----------
Kelly
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Richard
29 posts
Jul 11, 2007
10:16 AM
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you have two choices move or quit flying rollers.
Richard
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Santandercol
1230 posts
Jul 11, 2007
11:20 AM
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Well,this fellow is apparently an expert dealing with preds and livestock problems.Just thought he may have some input.
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Kelly
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1441 posts
Jul 11, 2007
11:45 AM
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Oh, he probably had some input alright!
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wishiwon2
11 posts
Jul 12, 2007
2:14 PM
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Hey Kelly,
I dont work with BOP. I can tell you however that peregrines are somewhat untouchable because of their federally protected status. It would be extremely unlikely to get a permit to 'take' peregrines, especially if they are nesting. Many other BOP such as redtails or coopers it is possible and likely you can obtain a federal take permit, however, you will likely need to demonstrate losses or in other words prove that you are suffering damage by said BOP. The other complication is that the wheels of government paperwork turn slowly, by the time you apply for and receive a take permit, your problem may have ended for the season ... Permits have a time period of usefulness for which they a valid. Unless you work in a wildlife profession you cannot apply for them proactively without a consultation with USFWS.
It varies widely state by state as what qualifies as 'livestock'. In Idaho, my state, pigeons aren't classified as livestock. My job/work assignment is to protect livestock and human health and safety. Most USDA wildlife services programs are set up by state and are charged with similar responsibilities. For those of you in ID I can provide contact information to pursue a federal take permit. Those of you who live elsewhere, contact your regional USFWS office and request application for a federal migratory bird take permit, or contact the USDA Wildlife Services office in your state and ask for the same. As I said before it is an inefficient process and you may or may not be granted a permit, those decisions are made at the regional level by USFWS. Recent violations may impede opportunity to get a permit ... I dont know.
Good Luck and best wishes.
JHF
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Santandercol
1237 posts
Jul 13, 2007
7:27 AM
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Thank-you Jon,
The input you have provided us confirms the fact even more that we must fly our birds and live with the losses or try to find a place to live where the BOPs are not so bad.Thanks again for the info.
YITS,
Kelly.
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