classicpony
256 posts
Jul 19, 2007
7:30 PM
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How do you get your new birds to fly and kit with the older birds?? I know everyone is different with this problem.
Jim
@thebirdhouse
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J_Star
1077 posts
Jul 20, 2007
4:58 AM
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Simple. We don't fly the young birds with the older birds. Once the young birds start to roll, then they are moved with the older birds. Otherwise, you will screw up the old kit mechanics.
Jay
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bman
332 posts
Jul 20, 2007
5:13 AM
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Too add to Jay's answer,if the new birds are flying equal times and rolling I have had better luck adding a couple of birds at a time than just combining two kits.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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Electric-man
413 posts
Jul 20, 2007
9:25 AM
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Would they eventually catch up? I lost a few birds from my first kit to an overfly and preds! My second round was mostly killed by the dog attack, so I put them all together but this was a couple of months ago! They were to old to put with my youngest round!
The reason I mention this is that my youngest round is progressing really fast! I feel like this screwed up my first kit, but I keep flying them! I think that I am seeing small progresses with them, but the heat is really affecting their flights right now, and their starting to molt! I plan on keep flying them and hope by fall, they are all mature enough to overcome the age difference!
My second kit is really working together well, they are breaking together and hitting some really nice tail rides. They are starting to flip and a couple are hitting small rolls! They are late Mar/April birds! Mostly Joe Urban line and a few Turners!
Val
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kcfirl
143 posts
Jul 20, 2007
10:55 AM
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Once they are 6 months or older - just put them in the kitbox with the old birds and they should fly together. As long as it is only 2 or 3. They may not trap in quickly the first day or 2 - but after that they will.
Ken firl
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Missouri-Flyer
758 posts
Jul 20, 2007
5:23 PM
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Val,Jim
I have been flying my young birds "late April early June" birds after I let the older birds out. The older birds are still only flying 300 feet or so, and the younger birds will kit up together with the older ones. There are 28 in the older kit and 14 in the younger. They all trap in their on boxes everytime.
That is how I got the younger birds to fly, and they stay up 30 minutes or so....Now that they are flying good, I am gonna fly them after the older ones trap.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
Last Edited by on Jul 20, 2007 5:24 PM
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Electric-man
415 posts
Jul 20, 2007
9:49 PM
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Thats not really what I was getting at! My older kit, kits great, they trap within 1 min.! It just really seemed to screw them up when I put the younger birds in there! Even though it was a couple of months ago. They just don't seem to work well together! Just this week, I think they are starting to break more together, but they just aren't showing a lot of depth. Even though I've seen most all of them hit deep rolls, they just act like their scared they will fall behind if they roll deep! I don't see a leader yet either! Shouldn't Jan/Feb birds have a distinguished leader by now?
After their first molt this couple of month age difference should start to even out in their behavior, right?
I think a lead bird would really benefit them too! Just my thinking! At what age does this usually happen?
Val
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JMUrbon
281 posts
Jul 21, 2007
9:00 AM
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Val I use my older birds to help train the younger birds. I dont fly the young with thw A team but the rest are flown together. Mostly because I dont have the time usually to put up more than 2 kits. Hasn't ruined mine yet. You may never notice a lead bird until it is gone or you move it for some reason. But to try to locate a lead bird watch the birds that are working toward the front of the kit and not by themselves. look for the ones that only break when the rest of the kit breaks. Pretty difficult to spot but if you take the time you will see them. There may be more than one. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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Electric-man
418 posts
Jul 21, 2007
4:01 PM
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Thanks Joe, I noticed on my youngest kit, that there are 4 birds sometimes 5, that are like one unit! They all stay at the front, and they all do everything together! Their stronger, they can outfly the rest, they all have that " I'm a bad ass" look! Sometimes the weaker ones, will give out after ten or fifteen min and want to come eat, but these will stay up and thats when they really start working! Their about three months old and they are hitting some nice tailrides, getting a flip every once in awhile! A pleasure to watch! I believe they are 4 Urbans and 1 Turner! Think that I'm gonna really have something to work with out of this group!
Val
Last Edited by on Jul 21, 2007 4:02 PM
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