Missouri-Flyer
793 posts
Aug 13, 2007
6:54 PM
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he is on the right
at a young age.....
brother....
mother....
father.......
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
Last Edited by on Aug 13, 2007 7:02 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
132 posts
Aug 14, 2007
6:39 PM
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Sweet birds Jerry
Rudy
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crystalpalace
8 posts
Aug 14, 2007
9:29 PM
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Jerry it was swell visiting with you at our last SMRA fly. Im teaching the members how to judge but you seldom come to the flys. I helped teach several master flyers how to judge and they are well qualified. They were taught how to pick out breeding stock in the hand and also in the air. I learned first hand from the great master breeder William Pensom. I realize the biggest majority of compeition Birmingham roller breeders in the world havent had the opportunity to breed from the very best imports. Im referring to the old imported stock and newer imported stock. I started teaching in California and im still helping roller breeders in Missouri But some are stuborn and dont want to learn more about the fasinating art of breeding champion Birmingham roller stock. The biggest majority of roller fanciers in the world want to win flys before they become great breeders. Tony is interested in holding a roller seminar at his house this year. Are you interested in coming along with anyother roller fanciers living in Missouri and nearby states. I have a new web-site that will feature all my breeding stock to help beginners.intermediate and advanced breeders including master breeders in the sport.Jerry you have a great future ahead in the fancy and it is a pleasure seeing your new kit box and young flying birds. The very best to everyone that is promoting the roller fancy honestly.In the roller sport. Ray
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Electric-man
501 posts
Aug 14, 2007
10:29 PM
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Tony, I hope you post the date and time of this event! I will be busy helping coach football and wrestling for the rest of the year, but nothing short of that will stop me! I hope this makes since, but I am committed to the children first, rollers second!Hopefully this will be my last year coaching!
I have a huge urge to start meeting some of you guys in person! Hope that I can fit it in my schedule!
Val
"Wind Talker"
Last Edited by on Aug 14, 2007 11:49 PM
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Missouri-Flyer
795 posts
Aug 15, 2007
6:05 AM
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Ray,
My new schedule has me working all weekends. I try to get to the club flys as often as possible, and do visit our club members without us having a fly. I am on days for 2 more weeks, then go to nights when I will start my shift at 5:00pm...If this possible fly at Tonys is in the mornings, I will be able to make it, but if it is in the afternoon/evening, count me out. Next week on my days off (tue.,wed., thursday) I will be going to Kentucky to pick up a new police dog, so wont be available on those days..When you get closer to an actual date, email me and I will see how my schedule is.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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crystalpalace
9 posts
Aug 15, 2007
2:40 PM
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Jerry and all roller fanciers that want to meet at Tonys house this year will be informed on all roller talk. your working schedule will be observed very closely in regard to the date we will meet. The stock you showed to us are mainly light colored birds except for the red check. They look like local or stock that goes back to Richard Jaconett. I can tell the viewers many interesting things about that family because they were observed in California before moving to Missouri Then i have many years breeding the best stock from old master breeders from the early nineteen fortees to two thousand eight. Some of the old roller fanciers had good stock like some today but the breed is more popular today and more good stock is being bred. Some roller people say if they like there stock or birds that is the nain thing.I would agree if they had the proper educcation in breeding and owning one or more of the very best studs or families in the world. Sonny Ray
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DUCKS N ROLLERS
15 posts
Aug 15, 2007
2:58 PM
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Ray,
is that new web site of yours up yet ?
mike barry
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Missouri-Flyer
798 posts
Aug 15, 2007
3:39 PM
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Yes Ray,
you know the blood of my birds and where they came from. I do breed alot of light feathered birds, ALOT of Rec. Reds, Blue Checks,Red Checks, and alot with white...I have as of this year aquired a few pair from one of our great club members that is allowing me to breed some solid blacks..I have a few in the air, but are still young..My birds with the lighter feather are the ones that are really smoking...We will be having a club meet at my house soon, and you tell me what you think at that time....Keep me informed on the stuff to take place at Tonys...If I can come, I will be there....
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
135 posts
Aug 15, 2007
5:15 PM
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Zuppppppppppppp Jeryyyyyy
Rudy
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crystalpalace
10 posts
Aug 15, 2007
9:28 PM
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Jerry the fly was canceld this month because of extreme hot weather. Actually no flys should be held in the summer months because of the heat. If everyone could fly in the morning brfore it gets hot it would be great. This is something we have to think about for next year. We have five flyers to fly in your region in October. I hope you can compete the second Saturday in that month. Yes i know you have the local stock and some of my stock from Bill Roy. I saw them in your kit box and other roller fanciers througout the USA did too. Dont you yhink it would be wise to keep all the breeding families seperate in there own individual loft? Then you would have a better idea what your breeding results are.Do you know what to expect out of your breeding stock? I Have a good idea what is going to happen. The best youngsters after eighteen months to twenty-four nonths should make good stock. The whole club is anxious to see you fly. In the sport Ray
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kcfirl
177 posts
Aug 15, 2007
10:33 PM
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Hi Jerry,
if I didn;t know better, I'd say that he is a she.
Hi Ray,
you mentioned somehting about everyone wants to fly great comp kits before they develop good breeders.
My question is: how else does one know if he is developing great breeders other than by flying great kits?
Thanks,
Ken
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Missouri-Flyer
804 posts
Aug 16, 2007
6:18 AM
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Ray,
I go to nights starting Sept. 3rd, so I "should" be able to fly then. I have to be back to my house by 3pm to start getting ready for work, but should be able to attend the fly.If possible, maybe we can start at my place..As far as Indie pens goes, I have tried it and didnt like the results..Birds didnt raise young as well, didnt have eggs as fast, and most of all, didnt appear to be as healthy as my open loft breeders, so I discontinued the Indie pen breeding.. Yes, I have had these birds for a few years and know what to expect out of them. I have also watched the peoples birds fly many times that I received my initial birds from, so had the experience of seeing what I was getting, and it has turned out good..Granted my pairing of birds will be different than theres, they are still giving me good quality young..
Ken,
that is a cock. He is on the smaller size, but is turning out to be a better bird. I started to cull him 2 times last year because he never got depper than the 10 foot mark, while most of mine are atleast 20..I kept him around due to lack of birds from my 2 serious overflys, and now I am glad I didnt cull.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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crystalpalace
11 posts
Aug 16, 2007
11:44 AM
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Hi Mike my new web-site is superdome ray. piczo.com. I dont have much on it yet because im waiting for the molt to get over. I breed from the oroginal imported stock and new imported stock. All down from the old master breeders before me I was fortunate to study with the old masters before me and end up with there best breeding stock. In the sport Ray.
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GREEN
3 posts
Aug 17, 2007
12:15 PM
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is any1 selling any birds?? if so give me a call 1-310-696-3095.. im in compton cali..
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crystalpalace
16 posts
Aug 17, 2007
2:32 PM
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The last time your area flew it started at your end but you never flew. I spoke to some of the members in my area and they said they agree to fly you firsr. I have to get in touch with members in your arlet you fly first because of your working hours. We have a great group of members that like to help one another. Ill let you know soon as possible.ea next to see if they agree. I believe they will agree to
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crystalpalace
17 posts
Aug 17, 2007
2:49 PM
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I spoke to some of our members that fly and they agree you can fly firt in your area. I have to talk with the rest of the members to make it official. We have a great group of members so everything should turnout satisfactory. Were looking forward to seeing you soon Jerry. In the sport. Ray
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155
128 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:19 PM
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nice birds
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155
129 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:19 PM
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nice birds
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