Mount Airy Lofts
256 posts
Aug 19, 2007
6:14 PM
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Sorry guys,
Didn't think some one would link my videos to this site. I just wanted to show what my birds did on their days off. No BSing. I don't know why but every beginner on earth thinks that our birds come out spinning on every release or right out the egg. I just wanted to set the record straight. You really have to put in the time in your birds. Even your best birds would look like crap if not in conditioned or under the worst of weather.
I don't think I had any birds on film that were worthy of the name Birmingham Rollers - a plain out 14 rps (revolutions per second) roller. Altho, they have been known to be "Exceptional" birds on the right day (taken from last fly report).
I think people starting out need to just fly their birds. God bless the Bradley family...
Thor
Note to self... July is the worst time to film the birds in the air!!
Last Edited by on Aug 20, 2007 10:50 AM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1579 posts
Aug 19, 2007
7:16 PM
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Hey Thor, nice to hear from you. I don't know what video you are referring to but, yeah, seems allot of these new guys (from California??) think that there is some kind of switch you flip on and they fly and spin like a "champion".
I think they don't spend enough time to edumacate themselves and understand just what it takes to properly fly rollers.
My birds are going through the molt and let my kit birds fly just to get some airtime. I see some nice rolls but I am glad to just to get them flying for awhile even though a couple hurt due to primaries coming in.
Its sad to watch them right now, I want to cry...(LOL) But I have to nurse them along, FF coming up soon!
One more thing...yesterday morning, I let the A-Team out and shoo them all out of the kit box with my cool kit flag, I step back to see them ALL on the loft roof looking at me like I am crazy!
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Last Edited by on Aug 19, 2007 7:57 PM
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Velo99
1266 posts
Aug 19, 2007
7:44 PM
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Guys
I find that during the moult the roll is greatly reduced. Some of my birds won`t fly or land early. Sometimes the bird(s) develop this early landing habit at this point in their development. When the yb`s fledge and them go right into the moult it is difficult assess to them properly. Hence the ten-twelve month rule.
I personally feed an oilier seed mix during the moult to keep the shafts more supple and to aid in the moulting process. This in turn will affect the performance of almost every bird in the kit. This can lead to "jacking the feed" to regain control of the situation. This in turn can cause the feather developnemt to be retarded and lengthen the moult. A vicious cycle is started.
My advice is watch the birds. Open the door and walk away. If they come out and fly let them,if not it won`t kill you or the birds.
JMHO
yits
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V99
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Last Edited by on Aug 19, 2007 7:46 PM
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dave
343 posts
Aug 19, 2007
8:47 PM
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Tony,
I don't think it's just us "new guys from California" that thinks we can just turn on a switch and the birds will be rolling. I bet that most "new guys" think like that even if they are not from California unless they are so much more advance than us new guys from Cali.
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nicksiders
2085 posts
Aug 19, 2007
9:24 PM
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There are so many breeders in California and the new guys there are coming in by the droves. Because there are so many new guys coming on in California it just seems like the "switch turner on-ers" are in California because of the volume.
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Nick
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Mount Airy Lofts
257 posts
Aug 20, 2007
10:48 AM
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Tony,
Yep... don't recall when I lasted visited this site. It's been a while. Been so busy with the fishing trips, the family trips, the local club flies, and cleaning after the birds - especially during the breeding season when the droppings off the youngsters are chaotic...
Minnesota had heat wave after heat wave during the past 2 months and flying the birds were really off limits unless it was an absolute... like getting air time for a fly or peeping them for a visitor. Not to mention the moult and the BOP (birds of prey). Most of the time during the July months, I would open the door of the kit box to find nil signs of water in it. All the water would either evaporate or be drunken by the birds that night. Caused me to put in two waters, even 3 when the 2 wasn't enough. Crazy how humid it was. Most of the time, my chase stick was the only way to get them out of the kit box for some much needed air time. Of course the young birds with full of energy and itching wings had no problem taking to the skies.
Opening the door to see if they wanted to come out or not was not an option. The birds needed the air time and I needed to check out which ones I really wanted to put up during our monthly flies. Some times we are forced not to fly them until the last possible days because of bad weather or BOP attacks.
It would be a perfect world if our birds are in perfect form on every release and roll with perfect style... but the truth is, they aren't. We just have to fly the crap out of the best we have and hope to have them right during our events.
Thor
P.S. My videos was linked by city-side-loft under "check this video out". I think they are the only vids on the web with Bobby Bradley's song for background music. I just happen to check out my account and saw it was being used by other sites. I have zero problems with that. Just wish I knew so I could put better footage of what our birds can really do.lol.
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