Double R
76 posts
Aug 23, 2007
11:18 AM
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Tony, this may help us keep an up to date record, until you get a form up and going. If I am in the wrong go ahead and delete this.
Guys, if there is anything I missed you think is important and can help us to keep an accurate record please let me know and I will add it to the list!
Robby
1. Kind of BOP:
2. State, Country or Province:
3. Time of day:
4. Time of year: (month)
5. Weather conditions: (before or after a storm)
6. Did he take a bird or miss?
7. Sorry, (I forgot how to count)!!
8. Age of bird taken: (young or old)
9. Did it cause an overfly, if so how many lost?
10. Was bird taken on release,while flying,while landing?
11. Color of bird taken:
Comments:
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2007 9:15 AM
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Electric-man
523 posts
Aug 23, 2007
9:32 PM
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Is color gonna be a consideration? I also feel they like the lighter colors?
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Val
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BigBob
4 posts
Aug 23, 2007
9:56 PM
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1. Coopers
2. Indiana
3. 7:20 PM
4. August 24th 2007
5. Hot Hot Hot
6. took 1 bird at 7:20 2nd bird at 7:45
8. both birds were almost 4 months
9. Did not cause an overfly
10. First bird had landed when he was snatched. 2nd one was scared off the loft and then was snatched.
11. Both birds were dark checkers with white flights
This was my first loss since I let my birds out after a winter lockdown. I have seen red tails and a pair of coopers earlier in the year but they just flew through. I don't think it could have been the same BOP that got both birds that close together. All of the rest of the young bird had trapped in but the two. He came in and took one right off the roof with me jumping up and whistleing and yelling. He just flew off to the woods with it but scared the other bird back up. The second bird flew for about 15 minutes and landed but didn't trap in. The next hit the bop came in from the same direction but just flew over the loft and scared the bird back up. I was screaming and yelling but he just made a hard right and snatched the bird right out of the sky. He landed in the far corner of the yard and I ran after him but he took off again with the bird and flew to the woods the same direction he came out of. I guess this will be the end of my young bird training this year. They aren't ready yet but I just can't stand loosing them all to BOP. I am scheduled to fly in the fall fly Sept. 2nd but I don't worry so much about my older kit birds. They have been hit many times in the last two years and these are the ones that survived.
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Double R
77 posts
Aug 24, 2007
3:40 AM
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Val, I also feel like they like the lighter colors along with ones with red on them best. They may think the ones with red are already wounded.
Robby
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2007 3:41 AM
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bman
367 posts
Aug 24, 2007
5:35 AM
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1. Kind of BOP:coopper
2. State, Country or Province:Ohio
3. Time of day: 1st 8:00am 2nd 2:30pm
4. Time of year: (month)8/18/07
5. Weather conditions: (before or after a storm)clear after storm
6. Did he take a bird or miss? Missed both times
8. Age of bird taken: (young or old)N/A
9. Did it cause an overfly, if so how many lost?N/A
10. Was bird taken on release,while flying,while landing?
Both hits came during landing.
11. Color of bird taken:N/A
Comments: It appeared to be a juvunile coopers.Both attempts were unsucessfull.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2007 5:37 AM
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maxspin
106 posts
Aug 24, 2007
6:16 AM
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1. Peregrine Falcon
2. Western Washington
3. Time of day 7:00 release
Time of attack (7:09 - 7:21) (7:35 - 7:42)
4. Time of year 8/20/07
5. Weather overcast light rain
6. (5) birds hit (1) injured (0) taken
7.
8. Out 5 birds (in the trees). All came back
10. Birds attacked after elevating to 600 ft. Kit reformed after first attack elevated again.
Keith
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2007 6:21 AM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1605 posts
Aug 24, 2007
6:20 AM
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Keep the ideas for data to track coming...I am in the process of designing an online form and writing and programing a database in which to collect the entrys.
The more facts we collect, the more I can slice and dice to produce helpful informational reports, by color, region, time of year, bop type, time of day, casual flying or conditioning flying for competition, young birds, old birds, etc...
It promises to be the first attempt to record bop incidents on roller pigeons that I am aware of.
Over time, we will spot trends as this data is put into, reports, spreadsheets and graphs that may be useful in legally reducing the number of bop incidence and losses in your backyard.
We (RPDC and you) will be on the cutting edge of advancing and supporting the roller pigeon with this effort. This could be fun, informative and interesting for all of us to find out what really goes on out there.
I have to say that there will be ongoing time and labor involved in the tracking process and will be an ongoing project with no time limit. Your continued financial support of the site through your purchases or donations to make this happen will be greatly appreciated.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Check Out Our Pigeon Supply Store
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2007 6:20 AM
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maxspin
107 posts
Aug 24, 2007
6:25 AM
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1. Peregrine Falcons (2)
2. Western Washington
3. Time of day 3:40 release
Time of attack (3:42 - 3:45)
4. Time of year 8/22/07
5. Weather overcast
6. (1) taken
8. Young Bird
9. (3) birds late trapping in. (in the trees)
10. Falcons hit relatively low. Worked as team. Male dove through the kit and missed. Female didn't.
11. Color taken Red Check W/F
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Gregg
180 posts
Aug 24, 2007
12:16 PM
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Tony,
Get the form ready to go. I've got three attempts to log already. Only one was a serious attempt, but hey, we need to log them all.
Gregg.
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bman
372 posts
Aug 27, 2007
7:50 AM
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coopers/adult
ohio
8/25/07
12:10 12:15 12:18
partly cloudy
1st pass a hit bird escaped
2nd pass missed
3rd pass probable kill......chased bird out of sight,bird missing
red check white fights
This came after one week lockdown after last attack.
First kit flew with no problems.Hit second kit(squeekers)
as soon as they dropped below the tops of the trees.
Scattered the kit pretty badly was almost dark when the last one trapped.One missing presumed KIA
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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MILO
412 posts
Aug 28, 2007
7:50 PM
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Ironic. I was joking to some of the guys in the chat that my A team was ripping it up so well, I had a gut feeling that I would be hit VERY soon...LOL
1. Peregrine Falcon (1)
2. California, Central Coast (Monterey)
3. Time of day 5:45 release
Time of attack (5:50-7:00)
4. Time of year 8/29/07
5. Weather beautiful, cool, and clear
6. (0) birds taken
8. N/A
9. (20) birds late trapping in. Birds trapped one at a time. They know the routine. One rolled down in fear on the kitbox and was killed instantly. A young 07 bird.
10. Falcon hit high. Big female dove through the kit and missed. Attacks continued for about an hour. Singled out individuals as they circled in to land, and chased every single bird it seemed.
11. No bird taken, but falcon was determined to get a recessive red hen. This bird was chased the longest. Not a great roller either.
Teams on lockdown until April. No exceptions. Not this year Ken Firl... LMAO We having fun yet?
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Electric-man
553 posts
Sep 03, 2007
7:43 PM
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1- young cooper
2- North Central Oklahoma
3- Release 7:15 p.m.
Attack 7:17 p.m.
4- 9-3-07
5- clear skies, hot and humid
6- missed
7- N/A
8- N/A
9- No overfly, birds just went high and flew about an hr
10- Attack was a couple of minutes after release, birds were circling at treetop height.
11- N/A
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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ROLLERMAN
153 posts
Sep 05, 2007
5:39 PM
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Had a tag team of hawks hit my birds today. Let my birds out at 8.30 am 835 they were all over the place pegions and hawks my birds flew over 3 hour every time they would try to land in came a cooper and put them back up. There was a time when i could see 4 coopers at one time must have been a pair and its young . I dont know how i didnt lose a bird today made me sick all morning 23 birds in the kit 13 06 birds and 10 07 birds. Time too lock this kit up already. its not going to get any better.
al
Last Edited by on Sep 05, 2007 5:39 PM
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Alohabirds
19 posts
Sep 06, 2007
12:42 PM
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1. Hawaiian Hawk (I'O)
2. Big Island, Hawaii
3. 5:15 P.M.
4. 09/05/07
5. Partly cloudy, slight breeze
6. Missed, thank god.
7. 4 1/2 week old, red check self squeek
8. No overfly
9. Attack on landing
Comments: Had a kit of 29, 4.5 month old and younger birds flying about 200 feet up. I was training this squeek to fly to the kit box by standing about 20 feet in front of the box and letting him fly to the box. From the angle of the attack the SOB must have been in the trees about 100 yards away. All I saw was a brown blur with yellow legs and talons extended as the squeek was landing onto the kit box. The squeek was really lucky as the SOB grabbed for it just as he dropped onto the box. Missed by about 3-4 inches.
Scary part is that the SOB must have started his attack run while the squeek was standing on my finger. If the squeek had waited another 3-4 seconds before flying to the kit box it would have taken the squeek out of my hand.
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Otis
63 posts
Sep 06, 2007
1:20 PM
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Otis
9-5-07
Peregrin Falcon-small adept male
Dracut,Ma
6:35pm
Last kit of 07 babies-4th time out -starting to kit well
250 ft. clear skys
Had been flying with clear skys for about a month with two older tight kitting 07 kits! They seem to only come up hill
now when they recognize loose kitting babies just learning to kit! Took one Dark Check WF youngster! Had them up too high for a kit too loose! - my bad! Sent out 8 holdovers to round them up and am missing my best rolling 2 yr old cock destined for breeder loft! Damn! I was just starting to feel I could field a team of some merit! I'll never give up!
Last Edited by on Sep 06, 2007 1:21 PM
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bob
53 posts
Sep 06, 2007
2:40 PM
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Hi Guys for what it is worth (Moderated) No further problem that day. Good luck Bob in Ontario
The Following Is Not Allowed:
• Pictures, plans or descriptions of traps intended to catch federally protected birds of prey or comments or advice of any methods or tools designed to or intended to harass or discourage a protected bird from its normal habits. General discussion of the MTBA, birds of prey and related topics are allowed.
Last Edited by on Sep 06, 2007 2:57 PM
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Richard
77 posts
Sep 06, 2007
3:10 PM
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Tony
The size of the kit might be of interest. I will try flying smaller kits shorthly. Right now they are hitting me like there is no tomorrow
richard m
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Electric-man
569 posts
Sep 12, 2007
8:28 PM
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1.- Cooper
2.- N. Central Oklahoma
3.- 7:45 p.m.
4.- Sept. 12th 2007
5.- Warm, calm, and clear skies
6.- Took a bird,dropped it when landed to eat it! Hawk left, but bird didn't come back tonight and looked injured!
7.- N/A
8.- 5 month old YB
9.- No overfly
10.-Hit upon landing attempt
11.-Red and white mottle
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Santandercol
1371 posts
Sep 13, 2007
7:08 AM
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Coopers Hawk
Gabriola Island B.C.,Canada.
Indian Summer
August was clear skies,Coops arrived a few days ago and are harrassing my kits everytime out now in the evening or morning doesn't matter.
No birds taken yet but think I'll lockem up till april
No Fall Fly for me.
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Kelly
Last Edited by on Sep 13, 2007 7:10 AM
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