nicksiders
2122 posts
Sep 01, 2007
9:49 PM
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What does it mean and how do you achieve it?
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Nick
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MILO
434 posts
Sep 01, 2007
10:04 PM
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Well Nick.
If your birds have a bad day, and don't work well, you just can't yell at them. Tell them they are special, and it's all about having fun.
c
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Electric-man
550 posts
Sep 01, 2007
10:11 PM
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LMAO!
Val
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John
66 posts
Sep 02, 2007
1:11 AM
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Kit sensitivity is the way the birds work together as a team.Basically if one goes they all go. I don't think you can train your birds, feed your birds to have it.It's in them or it isn't. Some families have it and some don't. The ones that have it usally show big breaks.
John
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Velo99
1287 posts
Sep 02, 2007
5:36 AM
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After consideration,the kit sensitivity trait is one of the factors that make our birds rollers. It would make them kit, and act in a similar manner. This is probably enhanced by the fact we often breed large numbers from the same line of birds to promote......... concert activity or kit sensitivity.
Could this trait also be fault if over revved?
Could this be an underlying RD contributor? Could it be bred into a line of stiffs to stimulate the roll?
A bird with a wealth of roll coupled with extreme sensitivity is most likely going to develop into a RD or a deep bird who is borderline out of control. Often sloppy, fighting the roll.
Oversensitivity can lead to frequency to the degree that the bird loses control of the roll and is useless as a performer or breeder as it flips every five feet.It can never seem to string together a decent roll.
Seems to me a fine line to draw when we are mapping our our breeding programs. Hero or zero?
yits
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Sep 02, 2007 5:53 AM
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nicksiders
2123 posts
Sep 02, 2007
9:12 AM
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The reason why I brought this up is after reading a World Cup report on Heine's fly they often talked about the high sensitivity his kit birds displayed and I was wondering if it is a behavior that can be induced and not bread into the birds. Maybe keeping the same group of birds together for long periods of time (years even) or if there is a character indicator that you need to look for.
Just some thoughts
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Nick
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MILO
435 posts
Sep 02, 2007
9:34 AM
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In all seriousness...lol
The best results can be achieved by a tight family within a kit. In my family, a kit of half brother sisters, and straight siblings can make for a sweet trigger kit. I call them clone kits. It doesn't always work out that way... Fostering from one or two pair can help achieve this mix within a kit.
c
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Alohazona
306 posts
Sep 02, 2007
12:03 PM
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Nick,
I can tell you one thing about Heine is that he is extremely dedicated to excellence with his birds.Europeans in general,pigeons are a way of life and extended family.I know Heine,but have never seen him operate around his loft.One thing I can tell you is that,when we are on the computer futting around,Heine is concentrating on his birds.If you ask me that makes a world of difference...Focus.
I once told Heine that he reminded me of the German cabinetmaker I apprenticed under for many years,starting at 16 years old.....Aloha,Todd
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sundance
162 posts
Sep 02, 2007
1:30 PM
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I`ve thought about this ,"kit sensitivity" thing a lot the past few months. As our local club has not flown at all this summer in my circle, due to one member in bad shape from an accident and anouther with a bad taste for public knowledge of his birds due to a huge theft of his breeders, not too much happening here . so I have had lots of time to just work towards WC and fall fly.
In this time I have noticed something that might have been there all along. I`m assuming this might be "kit sensitivity" . Correct me if I`m wrong. When I do get a break of 5 to 8 birds they seem to go deeper ,as there are more of them rolling. But, if only 1 or 2 birds begin to roll, it is almost certain that it will be short and quick. It appears that they are almost afraid to get far from the kit and stop the roll quickly in order to get back in the kit. Is this a little "over sensitive" ?
Just curious...
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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tapp
299 posts
Sep 02, 2007
3:45 PM
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Hi Butch, I notice the short fast spins when my young kits are flying to fast. It's like they don't want to get left behind. I pulled two that were doing the short and fast and put them in a kit that flew slower and were a few months older and they started right off rolling deeper. I belive because the kit flew way slower and they arn't in a hurry to catch up because the kit is still close by, Good luck in the Fall fly!
Tapp
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classicpony
345 posts
Sep 02, 2007
7:22 PM
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Fly Fly Fly
They love it.
Jim
@thebirdhouse
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