|
The Original All Roller Talk Discussion Board Archive >
Cliff Tell us!!!
Cliff Tell us!!!
Page:
1
tapp
407 posts
Oct 21, 2007
5:53 PM
|
Hi Cliff, tell us all about your Region 11 bird win!----------
Tapp
|
gotspin7
298 posts
Oct 22, 2007
5:14 AM
|
Congrats Cliff!
----------
Sal Ortiz
Last Edited by on Oct 22, 2007 5:14 AM
|
Ballrollers
914 posts
Oct 22, 2007
2:49 PM
|
Kim,
Thanks for asking! I used eight 05 birds and three 06 birds, and they were about evenly split cocks and hens. I prepped them using Guil Rands modified Yo-yo system.....fly them and feed a full ration of a mix, then rest them and 1 1/2 cup wheat, then rest and 3/4 cups wheat, then fly them and feed a full ration of mix. This is working very well for them. The birds are always fit, not broken down, and you have them on edge on fly days. I have noticed that flying them a second day really sharpened their quality and speed, but I had to work the day before my competition so I had my son fly them. When I got home he said, "Dad one of your bird rolled deep on the way out and hit the barn roof, but I don't know which one. He didn't fly with the kit!" I figured I was in trouble. We had a cold front move through on Friday night. Saturday morning dawned cool with rising air...just like I like it. They came out active and crisp; 1-2 breaks a minute for the first and second quarters of 6-9 birds, flying at 500 feet the whole time. The hurt bird was easily identified as he is usually very active, but he didn't roll the whole fly. He strayed out of the kit a time or two, but only for a moment and didn't cost me any points. Replacing him in the finals should add a few more points, but it will be hard for me to raise that score much! It was pretty much an ideal day for my birds!
YITS,
Cliff
|
tapp
410 posts
Oct 22, 2007
4:05 PM
|
Good job Cliff, Good luck in the 20 bird fly! Thanks,
----------
Tapp
|
Ballrollers
916 posts
Oct 23, 2007
5:09 PM
|
Kim,
I'm first out of the shoot on Saturday morning. They were bustin' it this evening....lots of big breaks...they are ready.....but I see that I have a sucky forcast for Saturday morning....warm, muggy and rain showers!! Last time I flew in the weather like that I DQ'd. I need a little break in the weather! The front moves through on Saturday and the Sunday guys will have a cool high pressure day....
YITS,
Cliff
|
ohaus
11 posts
Oct 23, 2007
6:02 PM
|
Cliff,
Just looking at the amount fed, 1 1/2 cups to 11 birds! On the second day. I think you have the 20 bird numbers from Guil?
Jim
|
Ballrollers
919 posts
Oct 24, 2007
9:14 AM
|
Right, Jim. That was for our 11-bird competition, but I flew part of the 20-bird team. So I prepped and trained them as a 20-bird unit (mostly because of lack of space) using Guil's 20-bird feed ration. The night before the comp, I took out the 9 that I would not be using, and changed the ration accordingly. I had not done it that way before, but it may be responsible for the big breaks I got. In facty, it worked so well that I may try it again in the finals!! LOL!
YITS,
Cliff
Last Edited by on Oct 24, 2007 9:20 AM
|
Ballrollers
926 posts
Oct 29, 2007
7:46 AM
|
Tapp, List,
I got lucky with the weather and the rain moved out at about 3-4 AM, so I flew in cool, overcast skies; just right! They came out and went right to work at a perfect height, with some very big, clean breaks. At about the half-way point, a Cooper's flew through at tree-top height and landed in a tree, so the kit changed their flying pattern and kept their eye on the BOP the entire second half. I was very pleased with 485.94 points. 6-10-17-5-17-7-12-10-5-12-10-8-10-6. Raw 267, 1.4 quality, 1.3 depth.
Charlie Stack's kit continues to be the bomb. His birds flew a near-perfect performance for him, at about 400 ft, broke twice a minute for a hour, clean and fast. At one point they broke four times in a row with little forward flight. Awesome! He has done a lot of substituting, and he lost several big breaks with 2-3 birds breaking on either side of a dozen that went in unison. He posted an awesome 1029 with his birds earning every bit of it, as Ken Easley and Brian McKenzie saw as our World Cup judges last Spring. They are still the best kit in the region. Joe Bob shot himself in the foot trying to tweak the feed on young birds, in order to beat Charlie's big score and his birds came down at the 13 minute mark. Clay Hoyle's birds scored a little early-on, then shut it down and flew like homers in the rising air. He is still scratching his head trying to figure that one out. "Every bird in that kit can roll 30 ft., twice a minute.", he told us in frustration!
Don Simpson (last year's Fall Fly judge), as always, has some of the best speed and depth in the region, but he selected two birds that wouldn't stay with the kit, and they hurt his scoring. As usual, we had a great time, in a great regions with great rollers and great roller men!
So Charlie will represent us in the 20-bird and I'll give the 11-bird a shot. This kit can do it. They like to break 8-10 at a time. We just need breaks from the weather and the devils. I'm not too keen on training these birds this next three weeks with the time-change, shorter days, and increased pressure from the BOP. But, let's keep our fingers crossed! Otherwise, it's up to us and the feed can, I guess! LOL!
YITS,
Cliff
Last Edited by on Oct 29, 2007 7:53 AM
|
W@yne
703 posts
Oct 29, 2007
10:24 AM
|
Well done Cliff.
----------
Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
=====================================
|
J_Star
1217 posts
Oct 29, 2007
11:52 AM
|
Excellent job Cliff and good luck in the finals. I am looking at 1.3 for depth!!! I think it should be allot higher than that.
I am very happy for Charlie and wish him the best. He deserves it. By the way, did Jay Yandle enter!!! How did he do?
Jay
Last Edited by on Oct 29, 2007 11:52 AM
|
Ballrollers
927 posts
Oct 29, 2007
12:52 PM
|
Thanks, Wayne, Jay. I made the decision to pull my deep birds, Jay, and go for work rate and kitting, both of which suffer with deep birds struggling to get back to the kit. It was a hard decision...I figured I could use the depth multiplier to get on top, but it seems to me that depth is the hardest thing for a judge to estimate correctly. Work rate is right there in your face! So I went with it. In hind sight, I think it was the best call.....it wouldn't have mattered, anyway, with the hawk distracting my kit, and Charlie's kit smokin' the way it did! It will be a harder decision in the 11-bird finals, though. What would you do?
Jay's two 11-bird kits flew away and were unscoreable. He judged the 20-bird so did not enter.
YITS,
Cliff
|
W@yne
705 posts
Oct 29, 2007
1:09 PM
|
Cliff
Go with your own instinct only you know your birds. Also do your homework on the judge ie His likes and dislikes and you wont go far wrong in the finals.
Best of luck buddy.
----------
Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
=====================================
|
Post a Message
|
|
|