nicksiders
2359 posts
Oct 21, 2007
6:59 PM
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Nike sign? Correct sign of what or for what? Is this some kind of code to drive us old people nuts?
Nick
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dSNICKERS Rollers
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DUCKS N ROLLERS
76 posts
Oct 22, 2007
8:53 AM
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0016,
do not.....i repeat....."DO NOT" put running shoes on your rollers.
mike barry.
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CSRA
329 posts
Oct 22, 2007
9:40 AM
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0016 i think the duck man thinks u are talking about his ducks lol ducks do not have the right type sorry duckman lol
Last Edited by on Oct 22, 2007 9:43 AM
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birdman
407 posts
Oct 22, 2007
3:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the shape of the keel bone.
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Velo99
1360 posts
Oct 22, 2007
3:11 PM
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I think he`s talking about the sound it made when it went over his head. Swoosh!
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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CSRA
330 posts
Oct 22, 2007
3:15 PM
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nice for laughs velo99
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spanky
19 posts
Oct 22, 2007
4:27 PM
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dave.
nice looking bird.
spanky
sgvs
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sundance
234 posts
Oct 22, 2007
4:33 PM
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just for refoerence, this bird is a little on the large side for me, but he spun deep and fast. not as nice as Daves but it works for me...
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
Last Edited by on Oct 22, 2007 4:34 PM
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Santandercol
1558 posts
Oct 22, 2007
5:26 PM
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Solid looking bird Dave.Yep.
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Kelly
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fhtfire
1142 posts
Oct 22, 2007
8:26 PM
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The type that I like is the one that Rolls hard and Fast and deep!! To be honest...I like what it does in the air...the "type" is whatever YOU like.
As far as the keel size...to me it is Blah Blah Blah...I have seen nice "swoosh" keels look good....Long keeled, Short keeled...etc etc...They have all done it in the air...I have seen short beak, Long Beak,...droopy winged...they all did it in the air...I have even see the
SUPER CHICKEN do it in the air....The SUPER CHICKEN is a Black Cock that was the size of a crow...and in the air it rolled as hard and fast as any "text book" roller....Ask Nick..He seen it fly at my house..and now he owns that Chicken!!
What I am trying to say...is...it is all about what it does in the air. There are some things that you really want and that is a bird that is shaped like a wedge, has the tail feathers stacked so that they look like one feather when not flying....just a nice balanced bird...but it is all about what you like....Choose the birds that do it in the air.
I felt a bird at Ramseys house yesterday that had no chest and the flatest keel that I have ever felt and his A-team was stacked with birds from this Cock and according to Ramsey..he was a rocket in the air. Just goes to show you!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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gotspin7
306 posts
Oct 23, 2007
5:34 AM
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Firebrewed, I am with you on this one! I like them to be up front as well!
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Sal Ortiz
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birdman
408 posts
Oct 23, 2007
6:50 AM
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Fly the birds and select your very best spinners. Forget about the Nike sign and go for the birds that 'just do it'
Russ
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CSRA
331 posts
Oct 25, 2007
1:04 AM
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Last Edited by on Oct 28, 2007 6:25 PM
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nicksiders
2366 posts
Oct 25, 2007
4:15 AM
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oooohhh, the Nike check logo. Yea, I guess they look like a check mark; a Nike logo check mark at that. Okay, yes I like them to look like a Nike checkmark especially if they spin....if they don't role and still look like a Nike logo I cull them. If they roll good, but don't look like the Nike logo I keep them. Type don't mean shit if they don't roll right.
Hmmmm, Nike?
Nick
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dSNICKERS Rollers
Last Edited by on Oct 25, 2007 4:16 AM
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gotspin7
313 posts
Oct 25, 2007
4:31 AM
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Steve, nice bird! Nick LOL!
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Sal Ortiz
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CSRA
337 posts
Oct 25, 2007
8:15 AM
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If everything is right an it don't spin you have to program them right to spin baby
Last Edited by on Oct 25, 2007 8:26 AM
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richard.r
16 posts
Oct 25, 2007
2:31 PM
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What's the right type! THE TYPE THAT SPIN RIGHT!
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hectorvicki2003@yaho
18 posts
Oct 25, 2007
3:07 PM
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About 3 years ago i had a bird in my A team that cought everyonce attention,i flew it for 2 seasons and still had many offers for that bird,but when that bird whould land people couldnt beleave that was the same bird.It was the biggets uglyest roller they have ever seen,i mean BIG.
But you know what ,i stocked it and bred it to the smallest hen i have and those young can spin.So see size dont matter.
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Hector Coya
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1801 posts
Oct 25, 2007
3:14 PM
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Hey Hector, you been talking to Richard Apadoca?
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Oct 26, 2007 6:44 PM
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hectorvicki2003@yaho
19 posts
Oct 25, 2007
3:30 PM
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Hey Tony
No i have not talked to Richard in a while.
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Hector Coya
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RO
90 posts
Oct 25, 2007
3:45 PM
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Tony,Richard A is a good friend of mines.Are you looking to contact him if so let me know.
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Ro
Last Edited by on Oct 25, 2007 3:46 PM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1802 posts
Oct 25, 2007
4:02 PM
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Hey RO, no, I was merely referring to Hectors comment about size not mattering, that was a comment Richard A. made to me referring to the breeding of large to small birds on my visit to his place a few days before I left Colifonia.
I have Richards number. Thanks though! :-)
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Oct 26, 2007 6:46 PM
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0016
18 posts
Oct 26, 2007
10:17 AM
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I really cannot explain in words what I might see as far as body type goes,but the type of Dave Sazb and CSRA has Nike wrote all over it, thanks for showing what I could not say.
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Steve_uk
253 posts
Oct 26, 2007
12:17 PM
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If it rolls right its right forget all the type bs.
Steve0...
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Mongrel Lofts
408 posts
Oct 26, 2007
5:22 PM
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.It was the biggets uglyest roller they have ever seen,i mean BIG.
But you know what ,i stocked it and bred it to the smallest hen i have and those young can spin.So see size dont matter.
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Hector Coya
Hector,
Never believe what your wife says!! LMAO KGB
Last Edited by on Oct 26, 2007 5:24 PM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1807 posts
Oct 26, 2007
6:41 PM
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Hey Steve, my view is that a bird from my family demonstrating proper "type" can better apply all its energy to turning up the velocity and "snap, crackle, pop" into and out of the spin, not have to exert and waste energy to overcome a physical imbalance.
The goal in my view is the application of effort applied to the spin by a roller of proper type versus the roller that also has to overcome his physical shortcomings.
The fact the it can is testament to the mental and physical strength of the "breed" handed down to us by our forbears.
And even though it can overcome it's physical imbalance, it is no excuse to not breed for proper type. The answer is to raise the bar in our breeding programs so that we may give the next generation that follows what we have been given.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Oct 27, 2007 7:11 AM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
328 posts
Oct 26, 2007
7:09 PM
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I THOUGHT U ALL WERE REFERING TO NIKE...........LMAO...
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1809 posts
Oct 26, 2007
7:12 PM
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Hey Rudy, what's that weird looking brown stuff on the bottom of that shoe?
Is that shoe setting on your bed? AWEMAAAAAAN!!!!!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Oct 26, 2007 7:13 PM
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W@yne
698 posts
Oct 27, 2007
6:42 AM
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Tony sorry i think your getting me mixed up with Ste uk I aint said anything on this subject.
If the bird rolls a first class spin in the sky then surely that bird is balanced in itself to the max to throw a roll thats perfect.
These birds are athletes of the sky you fly a bird that aint in proportion in build that bird surely wont roll a A1 spin ?
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1818 posts
Oct 27, 2007
7:12 AM
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Corrected it W@yne. Thanks!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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cardo2s
7 posts
Oct 28, 2007
8:50 AM
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Hey 0016
Great post with great response.
Alot of info with different views.
Tony keep up the good job.
LAFD ROLLER CLUB
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W@yne
699 posts
Oct 28, 2007
9:29 AM
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No problem Tony.
Ive downloaded the toolbar and i like it very neat indeed thanks.
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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smoke747
621 posts
Jan 24, 2008
10:58 PM
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0016, the nike sign is the shape and pitch of the keel.
type does not produce spin. proper type does make it easier for a bird to correctly. typr does produce type.
smoke747
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SpinCityRollers
45 posts
Jan 25, 2008
12:22 AM
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depends on your personal preference I prefer these
MadMax2@@8
Spincityrollers.com
Last Edited by on Jan 25, 2008 12:36 AM
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CSRA
1188 posts
Jan 25, 2008
7:47 AM
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Would this be the right type (Balance)
Last Edited by on Jan 25, 2008 7:59 AM
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smoke747
626 posts
Jan 25, 2008
9:25 AM
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Nice birds CSRA and Marlon.
CSRA, that white bird looks like the one I entered in our show that took 2nd in the young cock class.
smoke747
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mcroller
89 posts
Jan 25, 2008
9:37 AM
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fine lookin bird gents.I say pick them in the air jimmi
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CSRA
1201 posts
Jan 25, 2008
9:45 AM
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Tell me about that bird Keith
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Square
150 posts
Jan 25, 2008
10:21 AM
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Here are a few that are the right type for me, in my opinion you dont have to have all small bird's to get small birds. smoe of my large birds produce really small type birds consistently...
Square...
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Square
152 posts
Jan 25, 2008
10:30 AM
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Thanx..
square..
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PR_rollers
439 posts
Jan 25, 2008
11:49 AM
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Square its that a cock and hen and cock in that order going down??
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Ralph....
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John
160 posts
Jan 25, 2008
3:03 PM
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A 30'-40'very fast, Great style,and right back to the kit like a yo-yo. Now that's the right Type!!!
John
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CSRA
1207 posts
Jan 25, 2008
3:04 PM
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go get them john lol
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Shadow
15 posts
Jan 25, 2008
3:13 PM
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All rollers should only be judged on their ability,its not rocket science, not forgetting they will come in all shapes and sizes,a lot like any other working species,when breeding for same,the apple never falls far from the tree,breed around those that have capabilities, other traits are mostly cosmetic and down to vanity of fancier
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smoke747
633 posts
Jan 26, 2008
12:10 PM
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nice looking birds square.
smoke747
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smoke747
635 posts
Jan 26, 2008
12:15 PM
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Csra, he looks like the white I showed in our club show the came in 2nd in the young cock class. Is that white heat?
smoke747
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mario
GOLD MEMBER
296 posts
Jan 03, 2009
2:58 PM
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beautifuls birds ...............Mario
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