yang501424
12 posts
Oct 28, 2007
3:22 PM
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My Chocolate Roller Cock.
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sundance
244 posts
Oct 28, 2007
3:29 PM
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test worked fine . and a good lookin bird at that.
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Butch @
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DeepSpinLofts
188 posts
Oct 28, 2007
3:38 PM
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re: That Chocolate Roller Cock.
It looks like a well bred specimen. Nice form, an intelligent profile and a rather healthy looking plumage.
QUESTION: Does this Chocolate Roller Cock handle some serious business in the air?
Yang... I think you're affiliated with the HFRF. Let me know if I'm correct.
Holla back....
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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yang501424
14 posts
Oct 28, 2007
4:10 PM
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Great it worked. Took me a few trys. Thanks for the help.
Last Edited by on Oct 30, 2007 3:39 PM
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Bundee
24 posts
Oct 28, 2007
6:23 PM
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Wang
A week is not long enough to train a bird.
Maybe you should have the guy u bought the birds from
fly them before u buy them. Then used as breeders only.
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CSRA
344 posts
Oct 28, 2007
6:30 PM
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nice pic thanks for sharing
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gotspin7
336 posts
Oct 29, 2007
4:56 AM
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Yang, real nice looking bird! Yang you should not fly your breeders!
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Sal Ortiz
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Gregg
214 posts
Oct 30, 2007
5:41 AM
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Yang,
Just a guess but I'd say the bird is dirty. Don't get upset, dirty is a genetic factor that darkens color. You have a dirty T-check ash red heterozygous for blue. The black flecking on an ash red cock bird tells you that 1)it is a cock bird, 2)it carries blue. The blue expresses as the flecking because the ash red on the other chromosome is dominant and determines the color to be ash red.
Gregg.
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sleepy1.don
37 posts
Oct 30, 2007
11:20 AM
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Yang. Gregg is right. that bird is definly not chocolate. looks to be ashred hiding blue or brown.chocolate is a brown bird with spread. brown cannot hide blue or ashred so if he was brown it would not have the flecking. Looking at the bird tells me it could possibly be indgo. if so you could mate him to a spreed blue and get some andutions. posible but not definate. test mating would prove. keepem spinin Don
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nicksiders
2379 posts
Oct 30, 2007
11:54 AM
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Come on guys; there is no such color in rollers called "chocolate". It is either red, brown, or blue or a combination of same, or a shade of same. Lets don't cloud it all up and confuse the new people.
Nick
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Skylineloft
280 posts
Oct 30, 2007
1:50 PM
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Looks like a pearl eyed dark red checker with black flecking.
Nice looking bird and great nick name!!! .... !!!!Chocolate roller cock!!!!
Ray
Last Edited by on Oct 30, 2007 1:53 PM
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nicksiders
2380 posts
Oct 30, 2007
2:21 PM
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LMAO Ray
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Skylineloft
281 posts
Oct 30, 2007
2:52 PM
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Nick,
Good to see your laughing again!!!!!!
Ray
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yang501424
16 posts
Oct 30, 2007
3:33 PM
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Chocolate is (nick) name DUH! I also have a pure white roller that i name White cocky Roller. LMAO
Last Edited by on Oct 30, 2007 3:36 PM
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yang501424
17 posts
Oct 30, 2007
4:02 PM
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No im not saying that its a chocolate color. Didn't you see the "NICKKKK NAMEEEEEE". For EXAMPLE you have a real name and a nick name. The real color is red checker as you said or whatever BUT ITS NICK NAME IS CHOCOLATE ROLLER. I didn't said O this color will be call chocolate and YOU Will call it Chocolate too. NO NO you misunderstood. ME MYSELF AND I gave him the NICK name. Its my pet not yours you can call it whatever
Last Edited by on Oct 30, 2007 4:03 PM
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sleepy1.don
38 posts
Oct 30, 2007
5:38 PM
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OK what ever still that bird looks like it means bisness. and yes Iam a color breeder. I cull out everything that is clear for they are ugly!! keepem spinin Don
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Alohazona
328 posts
Oct 30, 2007
7:23 PM
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Yang,
I have several like that bird in my loft from my Henderson line,very typey.When that color pops up,it is usually, a very solid stable roller....Aloha,Todd
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sleepy1.don
39 posts
Oct 30, 2007
10:53 PM
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Woowee just about fell out my chair. cant believe you guys fell for that one. guess I:ll go out and see how checky's doing he's complaining about his new mate spreader. Keepem spinin Don.
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tapp
426 posts
Oct 30, 2007
11:05 PM
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Gregg, I have a bunch of Dirty birds!!! Yang when I was a kid I had a pet barn pigeon I named Chocolate!! You have a nice looking bird there.
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Tapp
Last Edited by on Oct 30, 2007 11:11 PM
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classicpony
503 posts
Oct 31, 2007
8:12 AM
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Looks Red to me???
Nice looking bird, keep up the great work.
Jim
Illinois
Last Edited by on Oct 31, 2007 8:13 AM
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Gregg
215 posts
Oct 31, 2007
8:42 PM
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Nick,
I can't pass this one up. Thank you, you admit there are brown rollers. LOL. Now I have to give you a free genetics lesson: Just as a spread ash red bar is a lavender, a spread brown is a chocolate.
Yes Nick, there are "Chocolate Rollers".
I like the "Nick Name" thread. If I had the time, we could go places with this one. LMAO. Hope were not being too hard on you.
Take Care
Gregg.
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1828 posts
Oct 31, 2007
10:23 PM
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Gregg said:
"Yes Nick, there are "Chocolate Rollers".
Just not chocolate Birmingham Rollers.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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yang501424
21 posts
Nov 01, 2007
7:27 AM
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Figure out what color is that bird.
Last Edited by on Nov 01, 2007 7:41 AM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
349 posts
Nov 01, 2007
7:36 AM
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May i see a hot pink roller ?????????,,..lol
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Ballrollers
931 posts
Nov 01, 2007
7:46 AM
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So if the bird also carries "Milky" we would have a Milky Chocolate roller, right? And if another one carries "Sooty" he'd be a Dark Chocolate roller, right? LOL!
YITS,
Cliff
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yang501424
23 posts
Nov 01, 2007
8:25 AM
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I'll show you a Hot pink fantail pigeon.
Choose your color
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Electric-man
772 posts
Nov 02, 2007
12:18 PM
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Milk chocolate roller!
LOL
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Val
"Site Moderator"
Last Edited by on Nov 02, 2007 12:20 PM
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Shaun
542 posts
Nov 02, 2007
1:46 PM
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There has been some dispute in the past as to whether brown exists as a roller colour.
So, does anyone have a roller pic which is believed to be a brown bird and which everyone is not going to dismiss as your Joe-average red?
Shaun
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Electric-man
775 posts
Nov 02, 2007
4:40 PM
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I don't know what this looks like on your computer, but this is a brown check! No red! Its mother was a brown ck also! I also have a brown mottle! Maybe I should have taken this picture on a sunny day!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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tapp
446 posts
Nov 02, 2007
8:04 PM
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Rudddy I could post some with hot pink tails, and flight feathers!!!
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Tapp
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Electric-man
777 posts
Nov 02, 2007
8:32 PM
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Here is a set of queaks I raised and gave to a friend! The one on the left is a brown bar!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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quickspin
30 posts
Nov 02, 2007
9:08 PM
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This are some of the Reds that I have.
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Shaun
543 posts
Nov 03, 2007
12:46 AM
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If I cast my mind back to a thread about a year or so ago, Tony was of the opinion that only red and blue existed as roller colours. I mentioned that I'd read - was it Kowalski's book? - that brown should be the third colour, but that it was rare in rollers.
Does anyone else have any more thoughts on this? Val, what you're describing as brown, I think many would just refer to as red.
Shaun
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Electric-man
780 posts
Nov 03, 2007
1:06 AM
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I'm no color guy! It looks brown, pedigree says brown ck, guess I thought it was so! What would it be then, red dilute? Keep in mind this is a Turner!
The one I'm calling brown bar is from Bill White! He said he had Higgins, Nieble, and Gomez! Thats all the info I remember from him! No pedigrees!
P.S. How much do we know about this Tony guy anyways? LOL
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Val
"Site Moderator"
Last Edited by on Nov 03, 2007 1:26 AM
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yang501424
26 posts
Nov 03, 2007
7:40 AM
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Hey scroll up to where i post the color chart and look in the brown section. And if you haven't seen a roller pigeon in those color then you'll need to retake a art class maybe art was so boring in school you fell asleep.
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
365 posts
Nov 03, 2007
7:47 AM
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ZUPPPPPPPPPPPP YANGGGGGGGGGGGG..................
I will have to disagree with you there that chart looks like a house color chart.........lol
the color of a pigeon is a whole diffrent puppy.lol from your chart..only my thinking ???
PEACE OUT..
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yang501424
27 posts
Nov 03, 2007
8:10 AM
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Color is color. We all live in the same world that uses the same color and would call the brown (brown). Unless you are from mars and call brown (red) or call grey (blue). maybe the guy that invented the pigeon color chart was from another planet (LMAO). Ask people who doesn't raise pigeon what color is those pigeon posted above i bet you will get more to say brown then red. i know some of them are red with the majority of brown which should be call brown. majority always win.
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
366 posts
Nov 03, 2007
8:24 AM
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Well i guess im color blind.................lol
THat color chart looks like a chart at home depot or a cosmetic chart or or dye your hair chart....
My opinion only.....LATER YANGGGGGGGGGGGGG
PEACE OUT
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
367 posts
Nov 03, 2007
8:24 AM
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Well i guess im color blind.................lol
THat color chart looks like a chart at home depot or a cosmetic chart or or dye your hair chart....
My opinion only.....LATER YANGGGGGGGGGGGGG
PEACE OUT
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yang501424
28 posts
Nov 03, 2007
8:54 AM
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color is made up of 3 color not sure which i think red blue and yellow. with those 3 we can form 8 color and with those 8 we can form more color. But it all points back to the secondary 8 because its the most common everyday use color. For example: we aren't going to call the color of grass (blue). its green common sense. Maybe the guy invented the pigeon color chart he based on the 3 main colors red blue and yellow. Every color points back to 3 those color thats correct but using the secondary 8 color or even further down colors is a everyday use around the world. We are humans we have eyes and it see more then just blue, red and yellow. Unless your color blind then im not talking to you (LMAO). Using just 3 color to name pigeon will just confuse people so i rather name the color of pigeon that most people will call it by (which will be in the 8 color circle).
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Ballrollers
935 posts
Nov 03, 2007
11:14 AM
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Shaun,
Brown is deifinitely a genetic color in rollers, and it is recessive, so it takes two doses to get it. I have several browns..one in my A-kit....brown check....t-check...spread....grizzle...and dominant opal on brown. No doubt about it!
Cliff
Last Edited by on Nov 03, 2007 11:14 AM
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nicksiders
2408 posts
Nov 03, 2007
11:53 AM
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Shaun,
Funny thing is I cannot recall what I heard or read that lead me to say that only blue, red, and brown exists in rollers. I think it is something I picked up as a small boy from some of the adult breaders....come to think of it I have only seen blue and red in my lofts, but I have had visitors try to tell me that some of my reds are brown. Hell, I have even had a friend that tried to tell me one my reds was a "mahogney" which is not even a color....its a wood. What it was is a dark reccessive red.
Is "cream" a color or just a shade of yellow?(LOL) It can get real silly here in the states. Opels; white bars; laces; pencils we have them all here, I wonder why we don't call yellows "blondes"?
Nick
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Last Edited by on Nov 03, 2007 11:54 AM
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