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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
424 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:44 AM
When is a Young Bird consider to be Adult bird??
6 months
1 year
2 years........??????
Rudy
nicksiders
2439 posts
Nov 10, 2007
9:41 AM
Any bird less than one year old is considered a young bird.

I think.............anyway.

Nick
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spanky
55 posts
Nov 10, 2007
10:44 AM
ONE YEAR.

SPANKY
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ROLLERMAN
165 posts
Nov 10, 2007
10:56 AM
Rudy


I think there are two ways to answer your question


One is that a pigeon can reach breeding age any were from 4 months on. as for rolling . for my self id say any were from one year too two years old. i have found with my birds after the 4th year just as deep but a lot less often

al
mcroller
3 posts
Nov 10, 2007
11:50 AM
I,d have to say at breeding age or six months.
yang501424
38 posts
Nov 10, 2007
12:37 PM
Hey i have a question. How long do you wait until you start training a baby pigeon or letting them fly. give me in month/weeks. Thanks
W@yne
752 posts
Nov 10, 2007
12:55 PM
An adult pigeon is 1 year old and older Nick your right on.

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Donny James
93 posts
Nov 10, 2007
3:56 PM
i have to say one year..............donny james
parlorfancier916
404 posts
Nov 10, 2007
10:03 PM
a young bird is a bird that hasn't moulted for the 2nd time....
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gotspin7
400 posts
Nov 11, 2007
4:36 AM
Parlor, you are right on!
Windjammer Loft
24 posts
Nov 11, 2007
7:43 AM
Considering you are just talking about being an ADULT bird age wise. I would say 1yr would do it.
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1718 posts
Jun 12, 2008
6:53 PM
Thx...........
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2790 posts
Sep 12, 2009
1:16 PM
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harrison
1245 posts
Sep 13, 2009
12:06 PM
I am a member of The ALL ENGLAND ROLLER CLUB that has a comp only once a year.
when you fly you have 3 groups.
And you have the option to fly in the 3 groups but you have to fly your kits back to back.
So let me break it down to you.
(these are UK rules).
Year 09 for instance.
YOUNG BIRD fly is a bird sporting the 09 ring.
Then you have the YEARLING fly that is sporting the ring from the year before that is the(08 ring) of course.
Then you have the (OLD BIRD)fly that is sporting any year ring other then the two stated above.
So me going by that I say that a OLD BIRD is anything from 2 years onwards.
o as most UK flyers do they ring there birds on the 3rd of january and fly them in the ALL ENGLAND ROLLER CLUB in July that makes the birds entering the young bird fly 7 months old.
Then you wait 12 months for the next fly that makes the yearlings 19 months old then 12 months before the next fly again will make that 09 young bird 30 months old before its old anougth to fly as an old bird.
just thought i would put this up.
So basicly the ALL ENGLAND ROLLER CLUB states an old bird is (AT ITS OLDEST 30 MONTHS OLD)
of course not everyone rings there birds this early but the seriouse guys want there birds as mature as possible for there flys thats why they ring them on the 3rd of january.
Bcause the rings are only available from the 1st of january onwards.
hope you guys can understand what i have wrote.
my spelling and wording isnt 100%.
harrison hull uk

Last Edited by on Sep 13, 2009 12:08 PM
pigeon pete
368 posts
Sep 13, 2009
4:05 PM
So Many ways to look at and answer that question.
Looking at a roller purely as a pigeon, once it is through the first moult it has it's 'adult ' plumage and it reaches breeding age, thats one way of looking at it.
12 months old is a bit arbritory (sp?)figure as they can breed at a lesser age and fly in an old bird fly at a lesser age. ( a 2009 bird rung late in the year will be an adult by jan 2010 according to the flying rules but may be only a few weeks old and could well still be a squeeker!).
A yearling may fly as a yearling bird or an old bird in the AERC flys, it's up to you what you enter it into. And- like someone above said there is a difference between adulthood and full maturity, a bit like us really. Some have reached their potential at 12 months, and others take a little longer if we are talking about the onset of the roll.
Mine do and I consider them to be fully adult when they are through the second moult.Years ago when I was starting out and didn't have many birds I kept them for longer before getting rid of non-rollers.
I had one cock that came on the tumble at 2 years old and by 2 1/2 years it was too deep and unstable to keep with the kit.It never even did a single flip before 2 years old.
Pete.

Last Edited by on Sep 13, 2009 4:06 PM
J_Star
2177 posts
Sep 14, 2009
8:57 AM
In the year the bird was born, it is considered a young bird. Once the bird passes the month of January, it becomes a yearling. It doesn't matter if the youngster was born in March or December. Once the yearling passes the second January, it would be considered an old bird. That is how the racing homer guys do it. I hope this will help.

Jay
Squabby*32
60 posts
Sep 15, 2009
12:45 AM
Word from a very trusted source schooled me that the birds are not full adults until they have gone through the second moult. They should be at their prime in the performance as well.

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