Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1845 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:02 PM
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Birds gotta love to be a roller and show it! Here is what I mean...
PT 1 (Roll) The bird has got to enjoy the experience of rolling; after all he is a “roller”. He must not be afraid to snap into and out of a short, medium or deep roll and then slingshot back to the kit.
He is to “possess” the roll, not be “possessed” by it. That desire to roll in this manner is a trait that is most important and one that I want to see maintained in my Ruby Roller strain.
The roll must also be of good quality. I look for the “H” style and consider it to be the minimum quality of a better than average roller.
The Ruby Roller must be able to “snap-crackle-pop” into and out of the roll and do its best to get back to the kit and work itself into position to do it again, once or twice a minute is preferred.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Last Edited by on Nov 12, 2007 12:41 PM
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parlorfancier916
402 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:10 PM
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so that means frequency right tony?
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gotspin7
392 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:27 PM
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I think Tony is saying a bird that does not fight the roll!
For me personally I would say velocity, style,kitting ability, depth and finally frequency!
Last Edited by on Nov 10, 2007 7:21 PM
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Gregg
256 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:32 PM
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1. velocity
2. style in, through and out of the spin
3. kitting and return from same to kit
4. frequecncy
5. depth
in that order.
Last Edited by on Nov 10, 2007 6:33 PM
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classicpony
510 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:45 PM
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Thats its a BIRMINGHAM ROLLER not a Homer. :)
Then all the above!
Jim
Illinois
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smk
55 posts
Nov 10, 2007
6:50 PM
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the only thing i would change in that line up is i would put kitting first if they don't kit what have you got jmo
scott
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nicksiders
2443 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:02 PM
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It all starts with kitting; that is what the bird has to do first. Everything else is done from the kit and then back to the kit to do it again. If a bird doesn't want to be culled right away he had better kit and kit well.
Nick
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Donny James
95 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:38 PM
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i have to agree with gregg .,..............donny james
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3757
230 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:39 PM
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Gregg - This is right on the money!!!!!!!!!!!
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
216 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:47 PM
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VELOCITY----STYLE, the must go hand and hand ,frequency a very important quality that I must have is to know that the family breeds this in high percentage, because if it does'nt, I DONT NEED IT.
R-Luna
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
430 posts
Nov 10, 2007
8:55 PM
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COLOR.......................LMAO........
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Santandercol
1614 posts
Nov 10, 2007
9:11 PM
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That it has Feathers and can fly!!
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Kelly
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parlorfancier916
403 posts
Nov 10, 2007
9:51 PM
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lol, you guys are making me think about breeding a skinless one that can fry...
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4581 25th ave. sacramento C.A. 95820
http://freewebs.com/parlorrollers
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birdman
419 posts
Nov 10, 2007
10:50 PM
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The birds are expected to kit, it's not something I have to breed for but the inability is something I cull for.
I choose velocity first then style.
Russ
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W@yne
754 posts
Nov 10, 2007
11:21 PM
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Kitting,
Quality of the roll,
Frequency,
Depth.
I look at every bird that i fly as a future stock bird candidate.
I personally have very little kitting issues within my family of rollers but so how good that bird can roll and how frequent it will nevr enter the stock loft if it has problems in the kitting department.
It will become history.
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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sundance
279 posts
Nov 11, 2007
4:03 AM
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Steve, you sound like you got great taste in birds. I`d love to see insida your loft!!! Can you post pics of some of these birds of yours for the upcoming show. LOL
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Butch @
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crystalpalace
167 posts
Nov 11, 2007
9:40 PM
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Bill Pensom said a good Roller has to be bred for high flying hights. This will encourage the bird to perform and feel safe once it starts spinning deeper. A bird that consistantly flys low and wants to land early should be culled. Style,Velosity,Depth,Kittimg and Frequency are essencial in breeding great stock for competition flying. The Roller should break clean from a spin and fly directly to the kit. Then the bird has to be a great kit bird the entire time it is flown. I started learning and studying the competition Roller in the early fourtees in Modesto and Los Angeles,California. I educated many Roller fanciers in California and for the last seven years more of the same has been going on in Missouri. Study the breed hard and you will be successfull. Ray
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quickspin
69 posts
Nov 11, 2007
9:49 PM
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1. velocity, velocity
2. style- clean in and out
3. kit-tight
4. 3-5 times per minute frequency
6. type small
7. smart
8. temper
9. character
10. depth ?
11. Expression
You can't have only one and is a must to have all. In the order I don't think it matters as long as you have it.
What comes first the chicken or the egg? LOL
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