pacos bill
25 posts
Nov 11, 2007
8:55 AM
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Nick reading a old post #73 Once in a life time hen, did you get any good birds from this hen just asking
Pacos bill
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pacos bill
26 posts
Nov 11, 2007
9:00 AM
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Nick the once in a life time hen. How are birds out of the mateing performing Pacos bill
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2007 9:02 AM
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nicksiders
2444 posts
Nov 11, 2007
12:36 PM
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Hey Bill,
I am not getting the quality from her that I expected. I have had her with two different cocks and the results this far has been subpar. I am thinking about removing her to the kitbox.
I will continue to evaluate her off spring next year. They still may come on.
That title has given to her from the breeder and not me. I have later found he gave that title to other hens as well. I got her free (that should have told me something) from a well known feather merchant. I have flown his birds with some success in the past; so we will se.e
Nick
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BigRiverRollerLofts
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birdman
421 posts
Nov 11, 2007
2:09 PM
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Nick, I bet that pedigree sure looks impressive, huh!
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nicksiders
2445 posts
Nov 11, 2007
6:45 PM
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Russ,
I am sure you know the breeder I am talking about (and his son). The pedigre was awesome and the note "once in a life time hen" was also found on other pedigrees from the same breeder. Lots of "once in a life time" birds, huh?
I have known that some people have sold different birds as the same bird and were caught by another breeder who knew who actually had the "real" bird.
Weird, ain't it?
Nick
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BigRiverRollerLofts
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birdman
422 posts
Nov 11, 2007
10:13 PM
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Nick, at least you didn't pay anything for the bird.
I will say that there are some good birds from those guys but not anywhere close to what is represented on the pedigrees. I say this from personal experience.
When my birds were all stolen I got a few of that family to try out and weeded through them and I've still got a couple 12 year old cocks that throw some good birds on a pair of old hens. In fact, I've loaned one pair out to a flyer in my area and he bred a hen last year that was the best he or anyone in his club had seen in a long time. I've also given youngsters away to another friend that I wish I had back in my loft ... except on the days they are flying fast, high and stiff...lol
Just like any other family ,It's a matter of finding the right birds to work with.
However, if I had to choose only one family to work with there are better and easier families to manage and that's the direction I've been going in for the past few years.
Russ
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Alohazona
342 posts
Nov 12, 2007
12:33 AM
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Russ,
I'm working with that family.I'm pretzel breeding them and the young look outstanding.As you might know that family took 1st,2nd,and 3rd in our futurity fly last year.When Don Simpson was at my house last year for the fall fly,he pointed those birds out,truthfully,I haven't seen anything better here in Hawaii.Like you said,its the individuals you happen upon from any family.I'm just glad I found it with this family....Aloha,Todd
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birdman
423 posts
Nov 12, 2007
7:10 AM
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Hey Todd,
I'm glad those birds are working out for you. As you probably know I personally bred from them before I sent them to Walt and I had already produced some good birds from them. Some are better than others but there are some birds in that group that are exceptional. You happened to get one of the exceptional pairs to work from and that makes all the difference. Keep up the good work! Nick, on the other hand probably got a dud.
Nick, you may recall a few years ago, I first offered you some birds from this group but you declined. Those were the real deal proven birds from that family and you would have had a much different experience with them. The only thing you wouldn't like is the color...all the best ones are blue....lol
Russ
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CSRA
434 posts
Nov 12, 2007
7:12 AM
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Once in a lifetime wow give her another chance Nick
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gotspin7
425 posts
Nov 12, 2007
4:18 PM
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Nick, the best bird in back yard was given to me! I hope yours shows you something soon!
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nicksiders
2448 posts
Nov 12, 2007
5:10 PM
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Sal,
I looking at a gift now that you know well. I like her demeanor and alertness. I think she is going to be fine and has that character thing that is hard to explain to someone who is not into rollers is all there.
Nick
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BigRiverRollerLofts
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