bigbull
1 post
Nov 22, 2007
7:48 PM
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happy thanksgiving brothers of the roll.need to know why birds twist their neck this look's evil and the bird can't fly.every blue moon this happen to a good bird.
ps.what is this......
Last Edited by on Nov 22, 2007 7:57 PM
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J_Star
1318 posts
Nov 22, 2007
8:04 PM
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Bigbull welcome to the site and Happy Thanksgiving,
Sorry to be the first to tell you that you have a major problem. It is every fancier nightmare. I am attaching an article I wrote about this disease and hope it will give some insight of what it is and what you need to do to take care of it.
Paramyxovirus (PMV):
Paramyxovirus caused by a strain of PMV 1 NewCastle Disease A of which there are many strains and various degrees of virulence. NewCastle Disease is the poultry equivalent of Paramyxovirus although not entirely identical but both are caused by identified virus PMV 1. NewCastle Disease sufferers do not recover fully and remain as carriers. All stock would be destroyed and burned. It is highly contagious and maybe carried place to place by contacts. It does not infect humans but maybe carried upon clothing, shoes etc. Insufficient data known in relation to pigeons but due to relationship of virus PMV is treated as same or similar.
Within just a few days of infection, both visibly ad latently affected birds shed the virus in secretions from conjunctiva, nose and throat, as well as in feces. The incubation period ranges from 3 to 21 days and up to 30% of affected pigeons may recover spontaneously after around four weeks of illness.
Symptoms of the disease:
The initial signs of Paramyxovirus are increased water intake combined with reduced feed consumption, emaciation and diarrhea-like feces due to a pathogenic increase in fluid excretion. This is typically followed by uni- or bilateral paralysis of the legs, timidity, and torsion of the neck, twisting movements of the body and overturning and walking backwards.
No cure to this disease but recovery after nursing and convalescence after ten to fourteen weeks. Mortality and fatality rate depend upon viral strain contracted. Some strains may kill within days but extremely rare. Most strains result in recovery and future immunity for the individual bird. Some may demonstrate continued nervousness for up to two years and even more. Parental immunity cannot be transferred to young so natural immunity is impossible. Some immune birds may become susceptible once again after several years of non contact. The immune system rejects unused or required defenses periodically while updating its armory.
Immunity is passed from immune parents to nestlings; however, this immunity only lasts three weeks. Youngsters should be vaccinated at 21 to 28 days old. Prevention via vaccination for both young and adult but fourteen days must be allowed for vaccination to become affective. Immunity is not immediate and also builds and wanes over a period of ten months full effectiveness.
Not all pigeons contract Paramyxovirus, some are resistant and possibly due to having contracted a mild and unnoticed strain at some previous time. Experience of this disease is extremely distressing and annual preventative vaccination of all owned pigeons should be performed.
Jay Alnimer
Last Edited by on Nov 22, 2007 8:05 PM
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bigbull
2 posts
Nov 22, 2007
9:23 PM
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j star thank you for the information on the twisted neck condition.at this time i don't have this problem. i purchased a nice pair of young birds.from a
petshop near by my house .this is a no no but in south los angeles home of the roller hobby.you can find some good birds in some parts of town.this pair of white birds i purchased one of the birds started twisting it's neck after two days at my lofts.five days later the other bird started twistining aswhale.i nolonger have these birds at this time .
ps..... thanks tony for the 20 rubys this year.
2008 is my year for ruby rollers
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1900 posts
Nov 23, 2007
12:52 AM
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Hey bigbull, your welcome! Best of luck with them and contact me to discuss training and breeding when you are ready.
Also, just FYI, we carry the PMV1 VACCINE should you or anyone else want to use it.
A stressed pigeon is susceptible to all sorts of disease, the best way to prevent disease is to help them achieve and maintain optimum health which is with proper nutrition, sound loft management and specific dietary supplements which should include PROVITAL BREEDER PLUS. I give my pigeons Provital everyday.
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Last Edited by on Nov 23, 2007 1:04 AM
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yang501424
47 posts
Nov 23, 2007
12:05 PM
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How do you use PMV1? do you inject it into them or give it to them oral. If injected where is the best spot to do it and from a new born baby how many weeks do i wait until time for the PMV1.
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J_Star
1331 posts
Nov 23, 2007
7:38 PM
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You inject it in the back of the neck. Do a search on PMV on this site and you will find ton of info. We discussed it in the past. BMC (Brian McCormek) posted a clear explanation of how to do it successfuly.
Jay
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PR_rollers
97 posts
Nov 23, 2007
7:56 PM
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Tony pro vital breeders plus is that only for the breeders as the name says?
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Ralph....
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1906 posts
Nov 23, 2007
8:20 PM
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Hey Ralph, there is also a Provital Pigeon "Boost" which is for non-breeders. Here is a little blurb about it:
"Pigeon Boost has been created for the performance pigeon that needs to be in superb athletic condition and optimal health. In the creation of Pigeon Boost our company (Provital) took all of those known ingredients which allow for a perfect athletic build up and found the purest and highest quality form to include in our formula."
You can read all about it at this link: CLICK HERE.
Like I mentioned in other posts, I give my Ruby Rollers the Provital products everyday.
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Support This Site With Your Pigeon Product Purchase-Over 100 Pigeon Products!
Last Edited by on Nov 23, 2007 8:22 PM
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TAWhatley
69 posts
Nov 23, 2007
9:40 PM
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The neck twisting may very well be paramyxovirus as has been posted, but it is also possible that it is a symptom of paratyphoid (salmonellosis). I mention this as it is not really PMV "season" here in So Cal and also due to the fact that you got these birds from a pet shop where they may not have had the best or most careful of care before or after arriving there.
Terry
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rollerman132
283 posts
May 17, 2008
1:43 PM
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Father Vincent might be able to help you; he specializes in people that twist their heads. Do you want his number? LOL
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