PR_rollers
92 posts
Nov 23, 2007
5:31 PM
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depends on the size or if its treated wood..8 ft 2by4 treated i pay about 4.00 here in PR
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Ralph....
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Skylineloft
411 posts
Nov 23, 2007
6:41 PM
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Call home depot.
They have people there that can help you out. And yes, they get paid.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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J_Star
1324 posts
Nov 23, 2007
6:43 PM
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They are 4x4 and about 6 bux. Like ray said call the lumber store.
Jay
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sac_spinners
199 posts
Nov 23, 2007
8:00 PM
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Welcome to the site Tou...Where are you from? Over here by where i live for the 8 X 4 ply wood, you looking around 6 to 8 bucks a piece for the cheapiest ones...not sure if they sell any other smaller pieces...you can always cut it yourself in to the size you want.....good luck with your building your loft
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spin to win
Chor
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Santandercol
1681 posts
Nov 23, 2007
9:55 PM
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Start with a few hun.
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Kel.
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Missouri-Flyer
1005 posts
Nov 24, 2007
1:52 AM
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he means a few hundred bucks
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
537 posts
Nov 24, 2007
5:26 AM
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Tou if for any reason or another u cant afford lumber...
Go where they building new houses and tell them u let u have scrap wood.. Just a suggestion...
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gotspin7
573 posts
Nov 24, 2007
5:49 AM
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Rudy, great advice as I think most of our lofts were first built this way! Mine was! I had lumber from all over Watts and Compton!LOL
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Velo99
1408 posts
Nov 24, 2007
6:22 AM
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Tou,
I think this is what you`re looking for bro.
You`ll have to build a door for the box. I built one with scrap off the jobsite. Found some hardibacker soffet material with vent holes already in it.
This is the last one I built
I like the dowel door a lot better. This one was probably 40 bux higher. The dowels aren`t cheap.
You don`t neccessarly have to use dowels either. I have seen a lot of guys use the one inch slats on the front of their breeder boxes. Same principle would work as well if not better at less expense.
g/l
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Nov 24, 2007 6:37 AM
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CSRA
531 posts
Nov 24, 2007
8:52 AM
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about 2.75 cents a 2 x 4 8 ft long
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Santandercol
1690 posts
Nov 24, 2007
7:16 PM
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Kenny,
Do you have have to get down on your knees with those boxes so low like that?I mean,you're a tall guy and I have mine 2 ft off the ground.
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Kel.
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Velo99
1419 posts
Nov 24, 2007
7:31 PM
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Kel,
Nah,I have em on hydraulic lifts. Tony has em in his store.
I keep em below the fence line to stay low profile. If someone looks over the fence,the boxes are closed and the only one with birds visible is the breeder loft.It contains the correct amount of birds according to the city ordinance (20). The visible breeder loft roof looks like a storage building driving down the alley.
Hey thats a nice hat you have on in your pic.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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Santandercol
1691 posts
Nov 24, 2007
7:55 PM
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Ya like that,eh.Freind lives in Borneo brought a bunch back with him couple years ago.Made from tree bark of some sort.
Unerstan your reason for keeping kitboxes low.
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Kel.
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Velo99
1420 posts
Nov 25, 2007
6:50 AM
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I like it.
Aboriginal culture/art and items they still make like that are fascinating.
I think we just got off topic. lol
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Nov 25, 2007 6:51 AM
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Electric-man
889 posts
Nov 25, 2007
8:09 PM
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Kenny,are you still using that same perch system? If so, how has it been working?
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Velo99
1425 posts
Nov 25, 2007
8:23 PM
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Val
I am still using it and I like it very much,once I got it fine tuned.
I have made an adjustment. I put one perch on an angle and and glued some blocks to it for them to grab. It works a lot better now. Probably gonna change the rest. I "tested" it for almost two months now. It keeps the birds seperated, perch filled and gives them that higher than you feeling if it is only two inches. I spaced the blocks where they are just out of reach of each other. If they get off the block, they slide off and relinquish the spot. Because it is narrow and angled,it is easy to defend. It has kept the scrabbling to a minimum.
Now to put the larger grate in the bottom of the box and get em up off the floor. Had a cat prowling around lately.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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Electric-man
890 posts
Nov 25, 2007
8:30 PM
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If you get a chance sometime, I would like to see a picture of how you have modified it!!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
Last Edited by on Nov 25, 2007 8:30 PM
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ICEMAN710
52 posts
Nov 25, 2007
11:43 PM
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your best bet go to home depot and take a look at the prices yourself. that way you can see first hand the types, sizes and prices of lumber. Do some researching there and see what material you would like to use to make a loft. Calling wouldnt help if you dont already know what you need. If you dont have the cash as you've stated on another previous post, how do you expect to buy all the lumber to build a loft? If I were you, as many younger roller enthusiast have done it, is fine scrap wood and build a loft that way. thats the best way to learn how to build one and very cost efficent too. Good Luck. BTW your the same guy that was on the NBRC forum asking questions right? anyways welcome
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ICEMAN710
54 posts
Nov 26, 2007
6:10 AM
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good deal tou, try asking your family or friends if they have any old lumber laying aorund in the backyard or shed, youll be surprised at what you can find.
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Oldfart
239 posts
Nov 26, 2007
3:13 PM
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tou vang, Eat the birds you have, build a warm dry, secure box for one pair of birds then post a picture of the box. I will send you one pair of young birds that I have raised from Tony's stock ( Tony I mean no disrespect and do not think I am taking away from your potential sells base, but if you think I might be, then delete this post) One pair is all you need to start out right! Tony's birds are as good as any you will find anywhere! Along with that I will provide you with my email address and help you anyway I can short of sending any money. Do it yourself like all the rest of the young fanciers who work odd jobs or save anyway they can, earn your way, it truly will mean more when you are an oldfart.
Thom
Last Edited by on Nov 26, 2007 4:59 PM
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Electric-man
893 posts
Nov 26, 2007
8:47 PM
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Tou, try looking around construction sites,new homes,buildings, ect.! Ask them if you can pick up some scrap lumber! Helps them clean up the jobsite and you get to score some lumber! Might even work out to a part time job for cash to buy some other supplies!
Just an idea, good luck!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Electric-man
895 posts
Nov 26, 2007
10:19 PM
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I would ask! If it is scrap, they shouldn't mind you having it! Might offend them if you just take it and they see you!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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sac_spinners
200 posts
Nov 26, 2007
10:28 PM
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Tou, i'm sure that its illegal to just take lumber like that...thats stealing bro... if you don't have the money then just go to a lumber yard and get the scrap boards that they don't need but you would still need to ask them first.....I use to go to the lumber yard also when i didn't want to spend any money....sometimes your find some good wood there which you can use for the kit box its better than stealing......
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NCRC (Northern California Roller Club)
Chor V
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ICEMAN710
58 posts
Nov 27, 2007
3:15 AM
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dont worry too much about the cleanliness of the scrap wood. You can clean them up, paint them whatever. If you're looking for scrap wood and are to worried about what you want in particular, you wont find jack squat that suitable for you. with the money you pay, which is zilch, you should be happy. you'd be surprised at what you can make happen with scrap wood. good luck
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Oldfart
244 posts
Nov 27, 2007
6:07 AM
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tou vang, My user profile has the information you need to contact me. Best of luck with your project, take your time the offer stands for as long as you need to prepare a safe house for your birds.
Thom
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silentroll
212 posts
Nov 27, 2007
9:30 AM
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I dont know if Home Depot is still doing this but sometimes I go there they have lots of scratch wood... they are the woods that other customers cut out of... some may be big and some are small but still useful... they are mark in color... I believe green one are the cheapest...only 50 cent... other scratch go up to 1.50... not much for a starter... get what you can now and when you are older, have a real job, have a truck w/bed, and then you start searching for quality loft...
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silentroll
220 posts
Nov 27, 2007
9:33 PM
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OK tou vang just one question, where did you get your birds from...
Last Edited by on Nov 27, 2007 10:11 PM
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sac_spinners
205 posts
Nov 27, 2007
9:50 PM
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There are all types of wood there...
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NCRC (Northern California Roller Club)
Chor V
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1926 posts
Nov 28, 2007
6:17 AM
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Hey Thom, good job offering the kid some Ruby's, I was just reading this thread and thinking "someone needs to help this kid", and what do ya know? You are helping him out. Good Job Thom!
I'll donate 10 perches to help the kid out when he has his loft/kit box finished. I'll send him an email about it.
Hey this is fun! ;-)
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Santandercol
1708 posts
Nov 28, 2007
6:21 AM
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HMMM,good one guys!!Sounds like Christmas already!!
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Velo99
1429 posts
Nov 28, 2007
1:04 PM
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I`ll build him a feeder.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
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W@yne
789 posts
Nov 28, 2007
1:23 PM
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You guys are so kind for helping this young guy out wish you guys would of been around when i started off.
This is what its all about
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Oldfart
247 posts
Nov 28, 2007
3:11 PM
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Thanks Tony and Kenny you guys are great, anyone else want to box up extra eguipment and send it to the kid? Maby a few meds for just in case or pro vital, vitamins, you get the idea.
Thom
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silentroll
224 posts
Nov 28, 2007
4:10 PM
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well if they are good then they are good...
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Oldfart
252 posts
Nov 29, 2007
7:02 AM
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W@YNE UK, When I was a young lad I was fortunate to have a local breeder who not only helped me but was never to busy or to tired to set down and talk birds. Looking back now I know their were days when he must have thought, oh no not him again! He sold me birds for little or no money but made sure I had an investment into them, sometimes work (cleaning the loft) or other chores. A great man that I will never forget unfortunatly he passed on.
Thom
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sundance
303 posts
Nov 30, 2007
6:47 PM
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Tou, I dont have a home depot close to me so I use Lowes. BUT, I`m sure most are all the same. When you go to the store ask for the manager. Tell him what you are building. All the stores around me have what they call "cull lumber" They cant sell it because of defects, but will usually cut the price greatly if not just give it away to get rid of it. They write it off as scrap. Ive done this many times to build gates and doors in and around my barn. Some has been used for nest boxs and perch boards. An 8 foot piece that is warped real bad can be cut into small parts and the bow doesnt even show or affect anything. GOOD LUCK with the birds Tou.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Velo99
1434 posts
Dec 01, 2007
7:24 AM
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Tou,
If you are gonna buy some tools,go to the pawn shop. Til you get older and get a real job,just get something that work for you til then.
You need a good measuring tape,not one of those 1/2 inch blade,12 foot salesman tapes. A 1 inch blade 20 footer will work.
A circular saw, plug it in and goose once or twice and listen for loose stuff inside.
A drill;same electric check,a square and a level. A utility knife and some wood glue are helpful too.
12d sinker nails for the lumber and some 1 1/4 inch deck screws for the siding to cover the frame. A small box of 1/2 inch fencing staples will hold the wire quite nicely.
There are a bunch of construction guys on here. Just ask we can tell you most anything.
One place we haven`t discussed is Harbor Freight. They have a lot of tools cheap. Great for home use most of the time.
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V99
Flippin`The Bird!
http://www.bluedotloft.50megs.com
Last Edited by on Dec 01, 2007 7:27 AM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
598 posts
Dec 01, 2007
2:06 PM
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Tou.........
Like i was saying go to a costruction site where they are building new sub -divisions and ask for scrap wood......
As for the advice of V99 is excellent advice
But be careful with a electric saw especially if u never used one
PEACE
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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