tou_vang
19 posts
Nov 23, 2007
5:46 PM
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i am 15 years old. no job yet.
how much birds should i breed a year with not a lot of feed and money? because i dont want to overbreed with not enough feed and space.
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PR_rollers
95 posts
Nov 23, 2007
5:55 PM
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I say about 20 should be enough and with bag of feed should do u good ,don't breed alot so you don't over crowd them cause if they get sick because of over crowding you now need to get medicine and thats another 20 bucks ..
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Ralph....
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tou_vang
27 posts
Nov 23, 2007
8:47 PM
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so 20 birds every year including the breeders and stuff?
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Fire_Baller_916
5 posts
Nov 23, 2007
9:10 PM
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Hey Tou where you from???
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tou_vang
34 posts
Nov 23, 2007
10:33 PM
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im from fresno ca.
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bigwilly
58 posts
Nov 24, 2007
5:51 AM
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One thing that Paul Gomez told me was that impatience can be your worst enemy. Just take your time and start off with good birds, the rest will follow. Good luck
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gotspin7
575 posts
Nov 24, 2007
5:54 AM
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Tou, have you purchased any birds yet?
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tou_vang
41 posts
Nov 25, 2007
9:25 PM
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yes. but that was when i didn't know what to do with flying birds and bought any birds that was a roller.
well, i have like 10 pairs now that i will stock. but i will get rid of the sorry ones.
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Santandercol
1694 posts
Nov 25, 2007
9:35 PM
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Are they good spinners,Tou?
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Kel.
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tou_vang
43 posts
Nov 25, 2007
9:41 PM
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well, they are good for beginners or backyard flyers, but if you are talking about competiton and pro flyers, then they are out of the category. LOL!!
well, they roll 10-15 ft and sometimes 20 ft. and they are very fast, sometimes they fly so fast that it makes a donut shape. but one thing(i dont know if it is a cull) is that most of them will roll when they are in the front of the kit.
but other then that they were flying well and kitting was ok, but falcons came so i stopped them.
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Santandercol
1696 posts
Nov 25, 2007
9:52 PM
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Good move locking them up till skies are clear.Go ahead and breed a bunch in the spring and fly them then.Hopefully you'll have better luck against the BOPs.
Hey,10-15ft ain't bad sometimes 20 if they are frequent and kitting well.Use the eggs off your best ones to hatch out with fosters and get lots of those young to fly and your quality should get better.
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Kel.
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
270 posts
Nov 25, 2007
10:11 PM
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Tou the reality is you have to keep up in numbers ,due to the fact the the odds are against us like ,over flies ,BOP attacks, roll downs ,for some reason birds get sick and die,and the culling. Focus on what you want or your expectations from your rollers. Start off with that persons family you choose ,to get a head start and avoid some odds.There is alot of good guys that would help you out , but I'm sure you would have to gain their trust since there is a magic act of the disappearing birds. No I'm not saying you do this but once again the reality is, this also is what happens sometimes. Wish you the best.
R-LUNA
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ICEMAN710
51 posts
Nov 25, 2007
11:34 PM
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How do your parents feel about you owning rollers? although that may not seem important to you, That would really help on deciding how many rollers you can breed a season. How many birds your parents will allow you to house on their property, how much space you have. If you're parents are supportive in what you do im sure they can help you on the feed bill. If I were you I would only breed 20 or so and learn how to manage both them and the breeders and keep flying the ones you already are. Learn as much as you can and dont overwhelm yourself. Dont get into the collecting of birds, and get some mentors. Treat them with respect, show them the integrity and honesty you have, and the serious GENUINE interest in the sport and im sure they will help you out. I completley know the dissapearing of birds Richard speaks of, its very sad and puts a definite dampening in the hobby. Good Luck.
Gary
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tou_vang
45 posts
Nov 26, 2007
12:37 AM
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yeah. i know how getting birds jacked feels like. after like 30 years or something for some guy. and yes, i dont jack birds because that is considered cheating for me. i rather breed and fly my own and learn the real way then steal some good/bad birds from others.
my mom is ok with them but my dad doesn't like them a lot. actually, my mom helped buy feed for me whenever i dont have enough money. and that is almost all the time.
yes. my dad doesn't like them because of wierd reasons. just to keep me from having them. but, i know they stink, so when i get a new loft and stuff, i will do my best to keep it clean to assure myself that i can keep them.
the BOP is getting worse. in the last couple of days, i come out to see falcons sitting by my loft waiting to get lunch. and sometimes looking down from the telephone wires for any living birds.
ok. thanks everyone for your advices. i will study the space i have and keep and do the most that i can have.
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tou_vang
58 posts
Nov 26, 2007
11:41 PM
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should i breed a pair at a time? too get more birds from each pair or something?
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silentroll
215 posts
Nov 27, 2007
9:47 AM
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well breeds the one that are your best rollers... use sucky one for fosters coz sometime sucky one are best at raising babies... for you in fresno you shouldn't breed yet... its so cold overthere I think, coz I was there last week and its freezing at night...
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tou_vang
60 posts
Nov 27, 2007
6:22 PM
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well, i got like 10 birds that are my best. they have the same depth, speed, etc.
yea. its hella cold over here. im not breeding yet, just making a plan early so i can think about it and make sure its a good idea.
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