luis
356 posts
Nov 29, 2007
8:25 PM
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Tou if you want to take a chance and settle older birds in,1st let them settle into the kit cage(wire front kit boxes are best so the bird can see its sorroundings)2nd once they are used to their new home(a week or so should do)put them on top of your cage in some sort of a settling cage like the ones used for the young birds.Give them as much time as possible.3rd when you are ready to take the plunge,put them out with some birds that don't fly to much so you can give them a chance to move about.If they take off let out some good flyers to atract them back(preferably birds from the box you have been keeping them in)
This is what i do and it works most of the time.I hope you realize that if we loose birds that were hatched at our lofts,we certainly run a greater risk of loosing birds that were hatched elsewhere.
Good luck!
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PR_rollers
141 posts
Nov 29, 2007
8:54 PM
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..I have a cage on trap door and on top. now i make sure these birds learn my call whistle.. when i see them going in for about a week or two,... knowing they are learning there surroundings and knowing that i have there attention on me,I have the feed I'm your new keeper,get them focus on you and not on escape..then i won't feed them the day before i let them out on there own and thats after my others birds are coming down from there fly so when i blow the whistle everyone comes in fast .......
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Ralph....
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bman
514 posts
Nov 30, 2007
4:43 AM
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Tou, you mentioned homers. If they have been homed to someone elses loft you will have to lock them up for a year and let them raise some young. And even then you will lose a lot if you fly them. With the homers I would just fly their young.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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Windjammer Loft
55 posts
Nov 30, 2007
8:34 AM
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I would try all of the above to some point. But remember to KEEP THEM HUNGRY...I would cut back on the feed (about half their normal ration) the day before you are going to let them out. They should already be whistle and feed can trained, too.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Dec 01, 2007 6:08 AM
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ROLLERMAN
183 posts
Dec 10, 2007
9:36 PM
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NO
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parlorfancier916
413 posts
Dec 10, 2007
10:11 PM
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Tou, my only wise suggestion is, if you don't have their moms and dads, don't fly em breed em and fly the babies from them.
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Nrhoua (Doua) Xiong
4581 25th ave. sacramento C.A. 95820
http://freewebs.com/parlorrollers
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parlorfancier916
416 posts
Dec 10, 2007
10:22 PM
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if you don't want to risk losing those birds breed babies and fly the babies because losing a baby when you have the parents is better than losing a bird that could've been a breeder and you can't seem to find a bird like that ever again...
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Nrhoua (Doua) Xiong
4581 25th ave. sacramento C.A. 95820
http://freewebs.com/parlorrollers
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gotspin7
785 posts
Dec 11, 2007
4:36 AM
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Tou, the best thing you can do is just pull their wings out and when they grow back fly them, that is how I did it when I was your age and never lost a bird! Good Luck!
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Sal Ortiz
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916fastspinner
13 posts
Dec 11, 2007
8:48 PM
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hey tou...there are alot of ways you can do....some people i knoe use to tell me to put salt in their water...you could pluck their wings and wait till they grow back...you can breed them like parlorfancier say and fly the babies first...or one other way is to have a cage over your trap door for a while until it is use to going in your kit then you can let it out...good luck...
san
Last Edited by on Dec 11, 2007 8:49 PM
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silentroll
259 posts
Dec 11, 2007
9:29 PM
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as long as they are out to see the place, basicly on top of your kit box...
let me tell you some things. email me and I'll let you know...just click on my name...
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wilwok
1 post
Dec 11, 2007
10:01 PM
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From my experience, homing a bird depends on how old it is as well. The older a bird is, the longer the process might take but this may vary with different families / birds.
For older birds or those that's flown before, my process takes two weeks, I use the bird in the cage technique for a few days. Then I tape their wings as you mentioned, let them hang out on top of the loft, and make sure they know how to trap with the other birds before letting them loose. I tape about 5 of the first flight feathers on each side. This way, it could still fly up to the top of the kit box. (About 6ft for me)
There's many ways to do it and some may not like this method, but this works for me every time.
Younger birds that's never flown before, I put them in a cage and set them on top of the kit box for about a week. Then I just let them hang out on top of the kit box before my kit birds come down. They'll hang out on top of the kit box for a while and trap when the kit birds trap. If they don't trap, I'll net them if I can, until they learn how to trap. (Don't spook them with the net and use the net as a last resort)
I don't recommend the "pluck the flight feather technique." It's a good technique to use though if your the type that gets too excited and anxious to see that bird fly, let your bird out too early just to lose it. Besides, some birds don't take long at all to home.
Remember, like the others mention, let them out hungry. How hungry? Hungry enough to want to eat out of your hands.
Good luck.
Vang
Last Edited by on Dec 11, 2007 10:12 PM
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PR_rollers
221 posts
Dec 11, 2007
11:01 PM
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Oh hell yea,,,, The day before just feed them a teaspoon not tablespoon.just hungry enough..to respond to your call..
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Ralph....
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PR_rollers
222 posts
Dec 11, 2007
11:05 PM
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Tou, do you have the book by William H. Pensom ,The Birmingham roller pigeon ???
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Ralph....
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PR_rollers
228 posts
Dec 12, 2007
12:03 AM
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Because you don't starve them.you should have them healthy and strong already they shouldn't just die.
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Ralph....
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PR_rollers
231 posts
Dec 12, 2007
8:40 AM
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you should never let a bird get to that point..always healthy strong and clean..when you break them down or don't feed them for one day it should not hurt them but benefit them by fasting ,,it will give there organs a rest.
I will order that book for you today like i promise, you just make sure you read it a few times and learn from it ,it would put you years ahead..
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Ralph....
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splitter
40 posts
Dec 12, 2007
9:06 AM
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Got spin I wouldn't pull their wings out they will never be able to fly just the feathers. HAHA
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Tall Pine Lofts
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ROLLERMAN
185 posts
Dec 12, 2007
1:09 PM
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I Done know how its done. but some of the homer guys wax there birds wings. they also tape 4 or 5 flites together
al
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PR_rollers
234 posts
Dec 12, 2007
5:42 PM
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You Welcome Tou,,its going out tomorrow .I order it from Tony today..
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Ralph....
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PR_rollers
235 posts
Dec 12, 2007
6:31 PM
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because of X-Mas could take ten days or more ,hopefully 6 business days... tells you everything you need to know about rollers..from training them when they are babies ..steps to getting them flying.. you gonna love this book..
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Ralph....
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PR_rollers
236 posts
Dec 12, 2007
7:33 PM
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it has pictures of kit boxes and loft ..wait to you get it..
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Ralph....
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