Skylineloft
476 posts
Dec 02, 2007
10:11 PM
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This was the fastest bird I raised this year.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
Last Edited by on Dec 02, 2007 10:17 PM
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smoke747
72 posts
Dec 02, 2007
10:18 PM
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what about those blk grizzles?
those were no slugs
london
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ICEMAN710
70 posts
Dec 02, 2007
10:20 PM
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Wow, thats one good looking bird Ray. One day id love to see your birds perform!
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Gary
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WCWINR97
26 posts
Dec 03, 2007
4:13 AM
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Ray nice looking bird!
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Fomby
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gotspin7
731 posts
Dec 03, 2007
4:39 AM
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Ray, nice bird!!
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Sal Ortiz
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Skylineloft
477 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:16 AM
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Keith,
One of those black grizzles is a full brother to this bird.
They where bred off a full bro/sis mating. And they where 3/4 as well.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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CSRA
645 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:56 AM
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Nice Ray whats the peds on that guy
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Skylineloft
478 posts
Dec 03, 2007
8:49 AM
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This is the full brother.....
They are out of cprc-2233-05 & 2379-05. they are out of evrc-217-00 & cprc-806-03.
Keith,
This was the fastest black grizzle I raised. This one was in my FF kit.
The red mottle was faster. I put her away early. She was to good to take a chance on loosing her.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
Last Edited by on Dec 03, 2007 9:01 AM
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smoke747
74 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:01 AM
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Ray,
My cock 1094-02is out of 217x506. he's the kind that'll make you famous.
you had about 3 of those in your kits(blk griz). wish i could have seen that at 2yrs old.
k.london
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smoke747
75 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:03 AM
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oh, is that the hen J.SMITH MENTIONED
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Skylineloft
479 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:05 AM
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Keith,
Your right, there where three in the team that day. I lost one of them trying to get my birds ready for the finals.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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smoke747
76 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:09 AM
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SORRY TO HERE THAT. THOSE WERE GOOD.
I KNOW YOU'LL KEEP-EM COMMING.YOU WONT LOSE THEM ALL
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.
K.LONDON
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Skylineloft
480 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:13 AM
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Thanks Keith,
Keith,
You said...oh, is that the hen J.SMITH MENTIONED.
What hen are you talking about ?
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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WCWINR97
28 posts
Dec 03, 2007
5:29 PM
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Ray , i like that one...i got one that looks like him.i call him "buckshot bill". 40' PLUS.
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classicpony
579 posts
Dec 03, 2007
5:43 PM
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Ray,
Nice looking bird.
Jim
Illinois
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smoke747
77 posts
Dec 03, 2007
6:48 PM
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RAY,
HE MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD PUT A GOOD ONE AWAY(RED GRIZ)
LONDON
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Skylineloft
483 posts
Dec 03, 2007
6:49 PM
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That would be the one Keith,,,,,,,,,
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Skylineloft
484 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:02 PM
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Keith,
This was the blue checker that was in my kit....
I put this bird away that day.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Skylineloft
485 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:05 PM
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This Dun was real good as well.
Also in my FF team.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Skylineloft
488 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:25 PM
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This bird was in my FF team and I lost it as well trying to prep for the finals......WHAT A LOSS................
I was passing this bird around to all the guys in my club. I was so happy with this bird.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Donny James
156 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:07 PM
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hay ray very nice looking bird and i want to wish you all the best with this bird.............donny james
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richard.r
84 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:55 PM
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Ray! Unfortunate when your best birds land after they been spinning there butts off trying to rest a bit before they enter the kit box. early and late fall is when they get pick off by the hawks,thats to me is the worst time. every year when i get a team together for the nbrc fall fly B.O.P. got worst with there hits. R.Reyes
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Skylineloft
490 posts
Dec 04, 2007
9:14 AM
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Richard,
That is so true.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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smoke747
87 posts
Dec 04, 2007
8:08 PM
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SOMETIMES ITS LIKE TAKING A BLOW TO THE GUT, KOCKS THE WIND OUT OF YOU.
BUT WE LEARN TO MOVE ON OR AT LEAST I HAVE LOL(HE,HE,HE)
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0016
29 posts
Dec 05, 2007
9:46 AM
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Ray nice birds.
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smoke747
88 posts
Dec 05, 2007
7:42 PM
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WHAT UP 0016,
THAT DUN SURE LOOKS GOOD NOW. HOW IS THE WEATHER OUT THERE?
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Missouri-Flyer
1048 posts
Dec 06, 2007
6:21 AM
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Ray,
Nice birds, BUT...would that feathering on the red and blues chest be considered a feathering fault, as in feather quality?..Yea,yea,yea, I know, they say the fastest birds come back from flying like this, but if that is the case, you would see more of it, due to everyone here having fast birds.
I get it now and then, but kinda weird how it isnt the fastest birds I have doing it.
Just curious.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Skylineloft
506 posts
Dec 06, 2007
8:47 AM
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Jerry,
You bring up a good point. You might remember the thread I started awhile back as, FAST SPINNER OR JUST BAD FEATHER QUALITY. This has always been a question I have asked as well. The birds I posted there where both A frame spinners and very fast. The red mottle I posted as the fastest bird of the year would not come down like that, but, she was not as frequent either. I do find that both these birds are softer in feather but the feather quality is still good. Here are a couple of photos of them now.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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John
108 posts
Dec 06, 2007
9:17 AM
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Ray,
I've seen those birds work and they are some good ones. If the feather quality is a fault in those birds then that's a fault that I would always welcome LOL. If it's a fault then there plenty of others that need to try to breed for that fault LOL. When they are in the air you can't tell if it's a fault or not. I'm breeding mine for the spin so if it's doing everything right in the air I could care less about a fault. The only time the fault thing comes up is in the show pen, well I thought the birds are preformance birds not show birds.Don't get me wrong if a birds looks good, feels good and performs well that's great. I still think it should be performance first and then all the rest. We all know that people talk about eye sign, expression ,feather quailty and all the other stuff. I'm sure that some one could find the perfect commie if they looked around on the streets long enough. It may have all the right traits but that alone want make it perform. Hey Ray just keep doing and keep them spinning.
John
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 12:39 PM
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smoke747
90 posts
Dec 06, 2007
11:55 AM
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I'm with john on that.
Ray, you said it right soft feather not poor feather. There ar ethos that think blue and red ckrs don't have soft and that rec reds can have hard feathers. it all depends on how you breed them.(your family)
when flying and rolling i didn't see any faults.
ray, they did their thing in the air and look good on the ground.
k.london
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Skylineloft
507 posts
Dec 06, 2007
12:00 PM
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Thanks John,
Do you remember the res red cock bird that took best of show at our small club show ?
Thats the father to that red self hen posted here.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Skylineloft
508 posts
Dec 06, 2007
12:05 PM
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Thanks Keith!!!!!!!!!
It means allot to hear comments like that from you and John.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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kham89
112 posts
Dec 06, 2007
1:17 PM
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oh nice birds u got there ray, u got some beautiful birds
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Missouri-Flyer
1053 posts
Dec 06, 2007
1:24 PM
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Ray,
Looking back, I do remember that thread. With that red mot. you stated did not come down like that, but was as fast if not faster than these 2, then my guess would be feather quality differences between them making the feathers spread like so. I am not quite certain it comes from the speed of the spin, versus the quality of feather...Your doing fine man.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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JMUrbon
301 posts
Dec 06, 2007
8:27 PM
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I get alot of yearling birds come down looking that way and although they may be good workers they are not always the cream of the crop. I get very few that will look like that if they are into their second or third year. JMUrbon
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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smoke747
98 posts
Dec 07, 2007
8:55 AM
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JMURBON,
YOU ARE RIGHT ,2ND 3RD YR BIRDS ARE ON ANOTHER LEVEL IN EVERY ASPECT OF PERFORMANCE,FEATHER, BODY STRENGTH, MENTAL STRENGHT AND THEY SEEM TO KNOW THEIR JOB AS KIT BIRDS.
SMOKE747
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