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bigwilly
110 posts
Dec 03, 2007
6:47 PM
I am on this site everyday faithfully. I noticed whenever someone post a picture of a bird, everyone says that the bird is nice. My question is, are we afraid to criticize someones birds. Is everybird someone post really a nice bird? No disrespect to anyone but I am in search for the perfect birmingham roller. I love them
luis
369 posts
Dec 03, 2007
6:52 PM
My Mama used to say.."If you ain't got nothing good to say don't say nothing at all".I pretty much follow that advice unless they ask me what i think,or unless they REALLY ASK FOR IT!!
Agent526
35 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:05 PM
Bigwilly, really great post. Now lets see what happens. Steve
Deadendkid
130 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:10 PM
big willy styles now that you ask its true that some birds pictures dont look good but if i was to tell someone the truth that there bird looks like a rat then val the executioner would run me outta here so i just dont say nothing becuase the truth hurts brother

Last Edited by on Dec 03, 2007 7:11 PM
Skylineloft
487 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:15 PM
I agree with Luis......
Why bag on someone else's work.
There are times that the truth needs to be told for the guys sake. But it can be done in good taste.

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Ray

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PR_rollers
179 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:16 PM
If the birds meets what my eyes see nice i tell you ..If it don't i stay quiet..beauty is in the eyes of the holder.what i see nice you see ugly.what i see ugly you see nice...but i'm not here to hurt anyone feelings but if you personally ask me then you get what you ask for,the truth..
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Ralph....
smoke747
79 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:25 PM
BIGWILLY,
WHAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS, THE BIRMINGHAM ROLLER GAME IS SUBJECTIVE. NO MATTER WHAT STANDARDS SET, EVERYONE WIL NEVER TRULY AGREE ON WHICH BIRD/S ARE THE TRUE BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS. NOTICE I SAID TRULY.

SOME GO BY EXPERIENCE,SOME GO BY WHAT THEY READ, AND OTHERS GO BY WHAT SOMEONE SAID AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT JUST DON'T KNOW.


K.LONDON
Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1941 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:30 PM
HEHEHEHEHE, kid, you have more to worry about from me, not Val, he is a volunteer, he can quit anytime he wants but he won't because he is a man and he offered to help me out with a mostly unappreciated task.

I have tremendous respect for Val, none for nitpickers, naysayers, trolls and instigators.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria


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RXR Loft
109 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:35 PM
Big Willy

as David Hume once said...

"Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them."


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Rudy
RxR Loft
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Santandercol
1733 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:40 PM
HAH!!I'm a lousy photographer and the last one I posted of a real nice red checked bird nobody said shit.Almost deleted it.But,no,,I know it's a decent bird that's all that really matters.

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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
elopez
112 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:47 PM
I agree with Luis.."If you ain't got nothing good to say don't say nothing at all".
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Efren Lopez
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luis
372 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:50 PM
Hey take it easy Kell!I thought your bird was real nice.Keep um coming.
Deadendkid
133 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:53 PM
maybe a good freind will tell them the truth meanwhile let them think that there birds look good and emberese themselves as long as it dont hurt there feelings then when someone one day tells them the truth they will get pissed and say knowone ever said nothing to me so i thought the birds looked good
Santandercol
1735 posts
Dec 03, 2007
7:56 PM
Gracias Luis.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
COYOTE33
19 posts
Dec 03, 2007
8:46 PM
Fellas
talking about someones birds on this chat, is like telling
them that there woman is ugly, you just dont do it.
beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. if guys dont know what the true br is,its up to guys who do know to set the standard.if they dont get it we have to keep on moving forward. but i will say this, somebody has to step to the plate, on the ground and in the air.

coyote
GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
309 posts
Dec 03, 2007
8:51 PM
Deadendkid, you crack me up-LOL. Thanks for the laugh.
R-LUNA
quickspin
174 posts
Dec 03, 2007
9:15 PM
There are some birds that we might not like but we don't know how good this ugly birds are. Just because it looks like a show bird doesn't mean is going to be a perfect roller.

It's better not to disrespect some ones bird so I rather have my mouth close.

You never know this ugly birds my kick my a##. LOL
rollerman132
184 posts
Dec 03, 2007
11:30 PM
You’ve all heard of the saying, don’t judge a book by it cover. Reading this thread reminds me of a story I read about a bird that Pensom called mouse, the bird was said to roll just as fast and tight as her Grandmother (514) but had the looks of a mouse. Pensom states that the bird weighed 6oz and was the ugliest bird he every saw. With that said,I feel our eye should be on the type of roll and not so much on the body type.
pat66
45 posts
Dec 04, 2007
3:54 AM
I agree,looks are one thing,performance is another, so if they ask ,it probably does look good, they are not asking about performance!two totally different subjects.
Pat
gotspin7
745 posts
Dec 04, 2007
4:39 AM
Big, I will have to chime in with Luis on this one!LOL

Kid, You are just to funny! So when is uncle George coming back? Do you have any pics of your birds?
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Sal Ortiz
ICEMAN710
75 posts
Dec 04, 2007
4:51 AM
I agree with Luis. Everyone who posts pictures of their birds and took the time to go take them put them up for a reason, because they think highly of that bird. Remember this TO EACH HIS OWN. although you may not like it, someone else does! Why shoot a person down just because YOU dont like something about that particular bird. Constructive criticism is one thing and negative put downs is another. Remember we're all here to support each other and this wonderful hobby. Have fun guys!

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Gary
bigwilly
111 posts
Dec 04, 2007
5:29 AM
Goodmorning Friends. That was a interesting post. I thank you guys for your input
Windjammer Loft
89 posts
Dec 04, 2007
7:39 AM
Hey Luis are you sure we aren't BROTHERS...LOL. I can
remember my Mom telling me the same thing. I have to stick by Luis on this one..... Remember, a pic is just a pic.(they never do the subject an justice). All the birds look good. You really can't tell what a bird is capable of doing from a pic.

Fly High and Roll On
Paul

Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 9:07 AM
Snake Doctor
77 posts
Dec 04, 2007
7:54 AM
At first when I read your question my thoughts were, "You can like my bird or not like my bird but don't talk about him!"

Then, since I am so new to this, how will I ever know good from not so good if you guys don't tell me, so as far as I am concerned, "Take off the gloves, tell me the truth, please be specific, you can't put me mad or hurt my feelings."

Remember I'm the guy who didn't know a pair of birds I posted were "Racers" I thought they were just BIG rollers.

SD
Deadendkid
134 posts
Dec 04, 2007
8:40 AM
snake man it would be nice if guys were like you able to handle the truth nowdays most guys get offended real quik and then will label you a trouble maker and all sorts of things the best way to learn is from the truth even if the truth hurts



deadendkid
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Les B
2 posts
Dec 04, 2007
9:38 AM
Hey guys what is this a pigeon show on the chat line,When a person put his birds on the a chat line he is showing what his birds look like. I seen guys birds that looks super and I have seen others on this here that just ok, bigwilly was saying uou guys say the same thing to every body, you are not judging a persons birds in the air, but what you see on this chat line, tell the person the truth his birds birds are not bad for kit but i have seen others kits posted that looked better, you don't have to bash a person but tell it like you see it!!
classicpony
583 posts
Dec 04, 2007
5:13 PM
You look at a pix, the only thing that you can say is NICE Pix, for you know nothing of the roll, spin, you have to take the guys word to go with the pix. I take a lot of pix of cars, and you can make a bad car look good in a pix, I think the same thing with a bird. So you have to take the guys word for the bird.

Jim
Illinois
CSRA
669 posts
Dec 04, 2007
5:19 PM
Big Willy are you trying to smoke someone lol


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