elopez
122 posts
Dec 04, 2007
12:42 AM
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List,
When do you cull?
Do you give them until a certain age and if they don't correct the flaws do you then cull?
I am finding it hard to decide as most of my kit birds are under 8mo. I lost all of the older ones to the bops. I have 4 kits almost all of them are full.
How do I make room for next season's birds?
Do I get rid of the birds that are older than 8mo. that are not performing to my expectations?
Your input would be greatly appreciated.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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Missouri-Flyer
1041 posts
Dec 04, 2007
1:12 AM
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gather up all your birds, invite everyone from this list, and we will all head over to RUUDDDYYY's casa for a roller B-B-Q
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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gotspin7
744 posts
Dec 04, 2007
4:37 AM
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E, I would first start with the non kitters and then I would go after the birds that do not roll correctly! Just my opinion!
Jerry, LOL!
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Sal Ortiz
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PR_rollers
183 posts
Dec 04, 2007
4:49 AM
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I'm with gotspin on this one too. and you said it Efren...."i get rid of the birds that are older than 8mo that are not performing to my expectation"there is your answer...make room for the best say goodbye to the rest..keep quality not quantity..
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Ralph....
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Santandercol
1737 posts
Dec 04, 2007
5:22 AM
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My birds get at least a years grace.As long as they are kitting.Actually the BOPs have done a good enough job of keeping the #s down here.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Windjammer Loft
90 posts
Dec 04, 2007
7:55 AM
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E..this is probally one of the HARDEST questions to ask and THEN follow thru. I do my serious culling after the birds are 1yr old. I get rid of the non-kitters, early landers,then the ones that don't roll to my expectations. Its a long process. I fly about 5 birds at a time. I try to give the bird every possible chance. Sometimes I hate this, but it has to be done. Just my way.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 7:57 AM
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Deadendkid
135 posts
Dec 04, 2007
9:06 AM
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you guys keep non kitters for a year man i cull them within 3 days if they dont kit and are not squekers also early landers get culled if they have no excuse to land early i think i am doing everything wrong i just learned i need to breed from non performers and keep non kitters and early landers around till there a year old i really need to get my self together
deadendkid
modern day spinners
Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 9:10 AM
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Windjammer Loft
91 posts
Dec 04, 2007
9:26 AM
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Kid.... Please don't get offended or take this as a personel attack. Their are many variables why young birds do the things that they do. One has to be expected to be able to determine and figure out why these birds are doing wrong. Example: Early landers might be cause by the bird not getting enough to eat. So why would you condem this bird to death because it was hungry. Non-kitters might be causes by the bird being intimidated by the others. Lack of condifence. I have a bird right now that will roll but, not with the kit. It goes out of the kit and rolls about a 40 footer, then joins the kit again. Should this bird be culled? I kept this bird in, fed it up for about aweek. Then put it back up with a few birds and it stuck like glue to the kit and still did its 40 footer.. So, like I said you have to give the bird every possible chance to prove itself. PATIENCE is a virtue. DON'T HURRY my friend.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 9:28 AM
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Deadendkid
136 posts
Dec 04, 2007
9:35 AM
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thanks pualie
deadendkid
modern day spinners
Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 9:36 AM
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J_Star
1387 posts
Dec 04, 2007
5:52 PM
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And never stock a bird if you didn't fly it for sometime to determine its capability. However, there is couple exceptions to the role which is when somebody you trust gift you a bird and gave you his word that it is worth stocking or if you bought a kit of squeekers and can not afford to lose them, then you breed them and fly the offspring to determine the value of your stock birds.
People say alot of things on the net. Chew what make sense to you and spit out the rest.
When it comes to culling, there is a fine line, and each fancier knows it, when the bird has to go.
Jay
Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 5:54 PM
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luis
375 posts
Dec 04, 2007
6:50 PM
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Good Post Paul.Kid take it easy,no need to be so sarcastic on your posts!Folks just put info on here.Take what appeals to you and discard the rest.
Efren i think its important you get to know your familys charateristics and being that like me you just started up again,i would give the birds more time.You can also talk to those you got your birds from and ask them what worked for them with that particular family.As you get to know your birds they will let you know who's who.I would also like to add that with as many pairs as you have down your going to fill up those kit boxes pretty quick.Take care of them and lock them up till the right time so you can move forward with your program.
That my friend was the biggest mistake i made this year!lost about 90 birds because i was plain dumb.Some would have probably moved my program forward quite a bit.Wasted time and now i have to start again!
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1950 posts
Dec 04, 2007
7:00 PM
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Hey Kid, culling hard is what I did in the beginning, any young bird that did not straighten out within a VERY short period of a couple days, was culled.
I figured, if I have a dozen more young birds doing it right, why should I trouble myself over a bird that is not keeping up with his mates?
I have culled good spinners that did not kit right or did not have the "stuff" I like in a balanced roller. In the end, you will be better off for it.
Not always an easy call, but you will learn what works best for you. Good luck!
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Last Edited by on Dec 04, 2007 7:01 PM
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elopez
124 posts
Dec 04, 2007
10:05 PM
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thanks for the advise guys. I'll keep all of this in mind to make my decisions.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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