RXR Loft
115 posts
Dec 04, 2007
8:50 PM
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I remembered this from a long time ago, and was wondering if I should post it.
Lets see if I can explain this..
A guy showed me how to tell if a bird is male of female.
What you do is hold the bird in you hands
You hold the feet & legs (ankles) between your thumb and first finger
At the same time you hold the bird by its beak with the other hand also using your thumb and first finger.
Slightly extend the neck of the bird, and with both of your hands moving up and down at the same time..
The bird will flap its wings.
What you are looking for is.. What the tail is doing...
Tail up = female
Tail down = male
Try it let me know..
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Rudy
RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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Double R
171 posts
Dec 05, 2007
4:40 AM
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Rudy,
I just use a paper clip and about 4in. of sewing thread. Tie the paper clip to the thread and hold as steady as you can and as close as you can about 1/4 inch above the lower back at the base of the tail. Remember you need about 4inches between your finger and the paper clip. Watch the paper clip if it swings back and forth it's a cock, if it swings in a circle it's a hen. Try it on your wrist and your wife's it really works no joke. Try it on a bird you know is a cock and one you know is a hen..
Robby
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Drama Side
2 posts
Dec 05, 2007
9:11 AM
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Has anybody ever tried the sex indicator you suppose to be able to tell out the nest
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Roll Down
11 posts
Dec 05, 2007
2:08 PM
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A cock bird when relaxed will usually stand more erect than a hen, with the tail almost touching the floor. A hen when relaxed will usually have the tail out more horizontal and further off the floor.--Geo.
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Bill from NJ
23 posts
Dec 05, 2007
4:50 PM
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Sexing Birds:
1) Get an expensive blood test via Veterinarian, or
2) Wait 6 to 8 months, see if lays an egg.
Both of these methods give 100% positive results.
Anything other than these two methods you are guessing and have a 50% chance of being right.
Regards,
Bill from NJ
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city-side-lofts
110 posts
Dec 05, 2007
6:10 PM
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another way thats is really easyand i almost am right all the time is put your finger inbetween the birds legs feel the bone inbetween its legs if your finger fits it a hen if not its a cock cause the hen has to lay eggs and then it will usally be bigger to fit the eggs
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The man in black
city-side-lofts.piczo.com
Ben the bird man of Idaho
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city-side-lofts
111 posts
Dec 05, 2007
6:12 PM
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another way thats is really easyand i almost am right all the time is put your finger inbetween the birds legs feel the bone inbetween its legs if your finger fits it a hen if not its a cock cause the hen has to lay eggs and then it will usally be bigger to fit the eggs
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The man in black
city-side-lofts.piczo.com
Ben the bird man of Idaho
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Missouri-Flyer
1043 posts
Dec 05, 2007
6:24 PM
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That sounds to perverted..has to be a better way than the finger thingy.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Electric-man
923 posts
Dec 05, 2007
6:31 PM
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After a hen has matured,I can usually tell by the "finger thingy"LOL, but thats because she has layed a few eggs and her bones have spread a bit, but on the young birds,there is little difference to me!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Missouri-Flyer
1045 posts
Dec 05, 2007
6:36 PM
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Hey Val Ol' Buddy...Good to see your still alive!
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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mcroller
37 posts
Dec 05, 2007
7:03 PM
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that finger thingy way works for me 90% of the time....jimmi
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Donny James
161 posts
Dec 05, 2007
7:20 PM
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an old timer pigeon guy told me if its an old bird and vent is close together its a cock and if the vent is open a little its a hen...............donny james
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RXR Loft
116 posts
Dec 05, 2007
9:17 PM
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thanks for sharing your info guy's..
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Rudy
RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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CSRA
674 posts
Dec 06, 2007
2:43 AM
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All of the post are very interesting goodluck to all lol
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Missouri-Flyer
1052 posts
Dec 06, 2007
8:09 AM
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read Double R post
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Drama Side
6 posts
Dec 06, 2007
8:15 AM
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I read Double R it seems like he saying hold it over the birds back. I don't see how that will work if you don't tie it to the bird or something. Thats what I'm trying to understand.
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RO
126 posts
Dec 06, 2007
11:47 AM
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Drama,,tie the paper clip to a piece of string.Then holding the bird in 1 hand, take the paper clip on the string in your other hand put it directly above the bird's back.If the paper clip goes back and forth then it's a cock if the paper clip goes in circles it's a hen.It work all of the time for me.Tell Sonny (your neighbor)I said whats up.
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Ro
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Double R
173 posts
Dec 06, 2007
1:29 PM
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Drama Side,
The paper clip does not touch the bird hold it as close as you can to the birds lower back without touching the bird. Try holding the paper clip above the inside of your wrist and you will see what I am talking about.
Robby
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Drama Side
8 posts
Dec 06, 2007
2:45 PM
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Thanks Robby and Ro. Ro whats going on you got to hook up with me. Sonny been telling me about you. What you got popping this saturday. Me and sonny having a fight party and I'm having my girls coming threw to do they thang.
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Electric-man
927 posts
Dec 06, 2007
2:47 PM
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I would guess it has something to do with the magnetic fields that people and animals have a4round them! Males and females will produce different results!Just guessing!
I am gonna give this a try! Sounds logical!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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RO
128 posts
Dec 06, 2007
3:18 PM
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Drama I just talked to sonny.He gave me scoop after I read your message Ima try to make it.
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Ro
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bigbull
6 posts
Dec 06, 2007
3:41 PM
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HEY RUDY THIS IS A GREAT TOPIC. THE FRIST EGG THAT IS LAIDED WILL BE THE COCK & THE SECOND EGG A HEN.I WAS ON A WEB PAGE AND READ THIS TOPIC ONCE BEFORE. I MARKED MY EGGS 1C & 2H IN A NEST AND FOR SURE IT'S TRUE .DO YOU GUY'S EVER WONDER WHY YOU NEVER
HAVE TWO HENS OR TWO COCKS FOR NEST MATES.THAT'S A TRIP .
HOPE THIS HELP.
BIGBULL
SOUTH CENTRAL LA FLYING
YESTERDAY I FLUE 42BIRDS NO BOP IN SITE 3:30PM TO 4:15PM AFTER
TWO DAYS OF LOCK DOWN FOR BIRDS WILL POST PHOTOS OFMY RUBY'S SOON.
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 3:51 PM
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Missouri-Flyer
1056 posts
Dec 06, 2007
3:47 PM
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Hey Bull,
I have a pair that throws nothing but cocks, both eggs!..Your theory is not correct...Must be your family.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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J_Star
1417 posts
Dec 06, 2007
3:53 PM
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I tied a thread and a paper clip to my disk at work today. Waited until it is at stand still and stuck my rest under it. It did not move and tried several times and not a thing. I asked my co-worker Cindy who sits in my area and asked her to try it. Same thing not a thing...It failed my test.
Jay
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RXR Loft
117 posts
Dec 06, 2007
3:56 PM
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big bull thats something to try... thanks..
yesterday I was rolling south on 110 (south of USC) were those your birds??
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Rudy
RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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bigbull
7 posts
Dec 06, 2007
4:02 PM
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HEY JERRY THAT'S ONE PAIR .START MARKING YOURS EGGS AND SEE..I'M JUST PASSING DOWN SOME OF WHAT I READ AND HAVE NOTICE MYSELF. JUST LEARNING MORE EVERYDAY ABOUT THESE ANIMALS.OUT OF THE LAST 12 PAIRS.ALLHAVE BEEN COCK&HEN
NO RUDY I'M DOWN MORE SOUTH LIKE BY TED WAKINS PARK 105 FREEWAY.
BIG BULL
SOUTH CENTRAL FLYING
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 4:20 PM
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PR_rollers
199 posts
Dec 06, 2007
4:06 PM
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the sex indicator works always this one you swing it straight back and forth count to 30 and watch it do its thing,if its a girl it would go in circle or male it would keep going back and forth..it picks up on the energy that our body has to indicate the sex..i try it on my dog it works too.. on my neighbor and i told him if it goes in circle you better tell your wife..lol.funny thing like oldguy said if you think male sometime it will go with your thoughts i just turn away without any thoughts then glance at it to see what way is turning..I say its about 90% accurate..
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Ralph....
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old guy
37 posts
Dec 06, 2007
4:13 PM
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Years ago Dave Gehrke and I worked together and marked our eggs for the whole season with 1st or 2nd egg layed. The results for each pair of eggs came out as expected, nearly 50% one hen and one cock, about 25% two hens, and about 25 % two cocks. In the clutches with a cock and a hen there was no indication that their first layed egg was one or the other. Chance can do weird things when small numbers of trials are used but reaches close to true percentages when a large number of trials are used.
Wayne
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kopetsa
192 posts
Feb 03, 2008
5:54 PM
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The easiest is feeling the vents, i'm 8 or 9/10 using that method when the bird is a month old!
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Shadow
36 posts
Feb 05, 2008
12:19 AM
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Agree with Bigbull regarding eggs,when two eggs laid if one contains a cock and other a hen,95% time the first egg laid is a cock,this is known to most racing widoower fanciers who use this trait to a large extent.
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Bill C
69 posts
Feb 05, 2008
12:37 AM
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Here is one that has not been mentioned. It was in the NBRC once. You have to check the birds when very young say only one to ten days. Before they get pin feathers. Hold the bird facing its but towards you, BE CAREFUL with this part. If the but has a smile it is a male and if it has a frwon it is female. A local guy here tested this and It was aprx. 80 % accurate.
Big bull, many times we get two hens or two cocks in a nest. Some pairs will even thow mostly one sex I noticed once.
Also it used to be with chickens that a more oval egg was a rooster but the rounder eggs were hens, but that was probably not 100% accurate.
They can tell with chickens, I wonder how they do that??? anyone know?
I like what the guy said above you have a 50 / 50 chance either way. unless its a color gene like BLue check cock carring blue bar and a blue bar hen ect. Then you would know but we don't want to stir up a hornets nest about color do we. Bill C
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Sandy91, SA Region 3
9 posts
Feb 05, 2008
12:41 PM
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Hey bull I also have pairs that only preduce cocks and athers that only produce hens....
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wishiwon2
40 posts
Feb 05, 2008
2:31 PM
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I use a piece of copper tied onto a string as described above. When i heard it i called B.S. I tried it at home and found it to work more than 90%. It has however never been wrong. There are some birds that just dont give an indication one way or other, but it has never told me hen when it was cock or vice versa. I dont know why it works and I am a science fan. It must not be magnetic though because it works for me with copper. ???
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Electric-man
1097 posts
Feb 05, 2008
3:37 PM
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Bill, this subject came up a couple of times in the last couple of years. I believe Kelly (Santandercal) was the first to mention the "smile or frown" method over a year ago, best that I can recall! I have been using this method since, and it has proven around 70%-80% true for me! Haven't tried the string and paper clip thing yet, but so far this method works best for me! It seems pretty accurate, but on some squeaks, its hard to tell. Seems to be just a straight line! LOL
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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JM420LOFT
40 posts
Feb 06, 2008
6:46 PM
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golg ring lol. hold the ring on top of the birds back. if the ring swing from north to south its a COCK east to west its a HEN. you can the same with 10 day old eggs.
Last Edited by on Feb 06, 2008 6:49 PM
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Snake Doctor
186 posts
Feb 06, 2008
8:08 PM
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The Old Mamaw's down the Bayou used to take a man's wedding ring, put it on a string and hold it over his pregnant wife's belly, back and forth in a straight line means a boy, round and round in a circle a girl, surprizingly it has a high percentage rate of being correct, watch out for the hoodoo, your heart has to be right! LOL
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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Windjammer Loft
222 posts
Feb 07, 2008
12:10 PM
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Today,I just started to pr up afew birds and I used the paper clip with the 5" string and it worked. All the ones that I knew that were cock birds,the clip went back and forth. With the hens,the clip made the circle. Works for ME!!!!!
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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c robbo
42 posts
Feb 07, 2008
4:04 PM
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pigeons change sex? iv watched young birds akting like cocks and turn out hens.
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Sandy91, SA Region 3
100 posts
Feb 07, 2008
4:07 PM
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I have I hen and if I put hen with other hens you will think shes a cock. She acts excactly like a cock..
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sundance
433 posts
Feb 07, 2008
5:10 PM
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I looked this up on Myth Busters and they said this is just an old wives tale. No scientific evidence. But even if you want to try it your chances are always 50/50...
Check the vent. Best method. Lays eggs=hen. LOL
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Snake Doctor
189 posts
Feb 07, 2008
5:33 PM
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"A whistling woman and a crowing hen are neither fit for God nor man!"
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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Shadow
58 posts
Feb 08, 2008
2:08 PM
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Here is one from my Fathers time, take the youngsters when about 10 days old,turn its ahead around till head is facing rear of youngster,now in same position turn youngster upside down in palm of your hand.
Stopped laughing now o.k
If it struggles = Its a Cock
If it stays still = Its a hen
Why not try it and see for yourself
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Windjammer Loft
234 posts
Feb 11, 2008
10:16 AM
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c robbo...........its true some hens act like cock birds. A young hen sometime acts and sounds like a cock bird. But, LISTEN and LOOK very carefully at them both. It take a keen EAR and EYE plus lots of practice.. Their is a difference in how they act. It just take some time to figure it out and understand which is which.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Feb 11, 2008 10:20 AM
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Double R
246 posts
Feb 11, 2008
4:04 PM
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Snake,
My grandma use to say the same thing about whistlin woman and crowin hens. If she saw a hen crow, that hen would end up in the dumplin pot.LOL
Robby
Last Edited by on Feb 11, 2008 4:05 PM
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ICEMAN710
113 posts
Feb 12, 2008
8:12 AM
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he knows his birds well. i would assume based on the color genetics of the young from his pairings.
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Gary
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