smoke747
89 posts
Dec 06, 2007
11:22 AM
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hey fellas,
what do you think about twilight time?(just before dusk)
have any of you noticed that when flying at this time the birds tend to fly tighter and spin faster? If so why do think this is when they can not see in the dark?what causes the stimulation?
Don Ouellette likes to fly at this time.it works for him
smoke747
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COYOTE33
22 posts
Dec 06, 2007
12:22 PM
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i think they go in safe mode, they realize what time it is and they also recognize that they have been just released to
perform. rollers live by the direction of the sun and they also recognize the bop time. i notice when the comies fly at this time, they seem to be flying in a tight form as well. i know im pushing to the egde when i fly at that time.
coyote
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 12:23 PM
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Mongrel Lofts
469 posts
Dec 06, 2007
6:17 PM
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747,
Here is the true and correct answer to your question about flying at twilight. First, you lose light and this causes the illusion that the birds are rolling faster. You can't see the wings and the lack of light fools many judges into thinking the birds are blurring or rolling much faster than they really are.Lack of light means lack of sight!
Second, Setting darkness causes what we in competition call the pucker effect. If your flying close to sun set or just after, you can fly birds that roll a lot but tend to not kit.. You know the ones that roll deep and so much they can't stay with the kit. The setting of darkness puts these birds tight in the kit. Well known to all competition flyers is the Pucker effect. These type birds would usually ruin you or cost you a lot of points.. They add to a kit and make lots of points at twilight.. twilight can make questionable kitters kit like grapes! There you have it,, the Truff!!! KGB
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 7:36 PM
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Donny James
166 posts
Dec 06, 2007
8:26 PM
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hay kgb very good post...............donny james
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COYOTE33
23 posts
Dec 06, 2007
10:09 PM
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HEY! KGB
IS EVERYTHING OKAY, YOU SEEM A LITTLE UPSET?
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bigbull
8 posts
Dec 06, 2007
10:48 PM
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keith
twilight is the perfect time to fly. i fly four kits of ten birds ...this is four kit boxs of ten birds in each kit fly for 10 or 15 minutes .my work hours & family time plus my hobby time is tight.
i clean carpet & upholstery for aliving so my time is full. monday-friday fulltime.
so twilight is good for myself my birds do perform better
bigbull
south central flying
ps good topic keith
Last Edited by on Dec 06, 2007 10:57 PM
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J_Star
1419 posts
Dec 07, 2007
5:57 AM
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Hay Coyo, he is always upset....Sorry, KGB I couldn't resist(lol).
Jay
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CSRA
693 posts
Dec 07, 2007
7:17 AM
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I think the twilight does'nt stimulate them i think its the thought of being away from the kit makes them roll faster to get back to the kit
Last Edited by on Dec 07, 2007 10:48 AM
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Mount Airy Lofts
310 posts
Dec 07, 2007
10:45 AM
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Once made a mistake and flew the birds a little to late. They stayed up passed dark. The smart ones made their way down right before it got pitch dark. The darker it got, the more you can see the birds go into the panic mode. Circling really fast and kitting really tight. You can see some were rolling but the lack of light was hard to judge any quality. Turned on the loft lights and to my surprise, they all made it down. 30 minutes in pitch black. Swooping in groups of 2s to land. I think they did not feel safe coming in by themselves. As the singles would do tight low circles on top of the roof and rejoin the group.
If they were to fly this fast in that condition, they would be of no use to me. Kitting was extremely good but it could just be a reaction of not wanting to be left behind in the dark...
Just my experience,
Thor
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maxspin
135 posts
Dec 07, 2007
12:46 PM
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Flying at twilight is a recipe for disaster if there are any Coopers around. The birds know it there and will not come down. I have lost several kits this way, and just will not risk it any more.
Keith
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J_Star
1431 posts
Dec 07, 2007
12:50 PM
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I agree with you Keith. But sadly people think that shit don't happen.
Jay
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