sundance
313 posts
Dec 09, 2007
8:38 AM
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Butch @
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
668 posts
Dec 09, 2007
8:45 AM
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Hi Butch.............
Hummmmmmmm it must be getting close to ST PATRICKS DAY........LOL
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RUDY PAYEN
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sundance
314 posts
Dec 09, 2007
8:48 AM
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Ran across this pic. on a really terrible website. But it got me thinking. If, and just if, BOPs are attracted to certain colors(i`m not so sure they are) But what do you think they would do with a pigeon colored like this?
I really dont have much white in any of my stuff. But if I did I think I would try Dyeing a few in different, off beat colors, just to see what happens. Green, bright blue, Orange, maybe do a few like easter eggs??? I know it sounds funny, but with the problems some have, who knows, Maybe it might help.
Most preds have a base line of prey, and are used to what that prey looks like. Is it possible to throw them off with crazy colors?
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Butch @
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CSRA
713 posts
Dec 09, 2007
8:50 AM
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Nice color you say a hawk deterent i say deterent
Last Edited by on Dec 09, 2007 8:50 AM
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sundance
315 posts
Dec 09, 2007
8:51 AM
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Hey RUUUUDDDDYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE JUST WAITING FOR ALL THAT GREEN BEER, HUH?
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Butch @
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luis
387 posts
Dec 09, 2007
11:41 AM
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I can tell you from experience these colors are no deterrent for BOPs,on the contrary they make the birds an easier target.Stay away from painting your birds!
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ROLLERMAN
181 posts
Dec 09, 2007
3:20 PM
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I can tell 1st hand. they eat them no mater what color they are. my son flys white homers for wedding and such .he has died them pink blue yellow and the bop seem to know the meat taste good no matter what color the birds are.
al
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sundance
316 posts
Dec 09, 2007
4:55 PM
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Well ok then, been thinkin bout this all day. If visual change wont affect them, what about smell or taste? what if I put a deodorant roll on on their back and chest? would they get one taste and let them go? Would the manly scent make them give up the chase? How about a dose of Vicks Vapor Rub? Just thinking out loud here.
Has anyone tried any of these things? I`m not looking for anything that would be harmful to the pigeon OR the BOP. Just a deterrent... Dish soap worked as a deterrent for me as a kid. really leaves a bad taste in your mouth that you dont forget soon.
I`m certain we cant stop them from taking some birds, but if theres a resident bird or two that is hitting your kit on a regular basis, maybe a bad taste a couple times can KINDA, train him to leave your bad tasting birds alone.
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Butch @
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
672 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:06 PM
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Vicks vapo rub..........ouchhhhhhhhhhhh
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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gotspin7
776 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:07 PM
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WOW! LMAO!
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Sal Ortiz
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sundance
317 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:11 PM
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and it would clear up any breathing problems for them too!!!! Might even help the BOP if he has a little cold or sniffle. LOL
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Butch @
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Donny James
174 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:22 PM
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i wouldn't mind a kit of those if they rolled and rolled right ....................donny james
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sundance
318 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:26 PM
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OK,OK... But I think in the spring when I start flying on a regular basis, I`m going to try some of these things on a group of culls. Put them up when a BOP is around and see what happens.
A friend of mine trained his pet ferret not to bite by using cinnamon oil on his fingers. Just seems to me this BOP problem can be lessened by aversion tactics that dont involve NOT FLYING... We can sit on our hands and watch them flop around the kitbox, and complain a plenty about not being able to fly , OR, we can try to find a way to lessen the pain, amd the losses.
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Butch @
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sundance
319 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:30 PM
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Hector, W-D 40 is a sweeter taste. We use it or fishing lures and when they quit biting it can trigger some more hits. Not sure why but the fish seem to like it. You can watch them follow the oil trail on a fresh sprayed lure.
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Butch @
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sundance
320 posts
Dec 09, 2007
5:34 PM
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Donny, I always thought you were a "color breeder" LOL
And I wish you all the best with them....LMAO
Been a long time since we talked buddy... How are you doing these days?
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Butch @
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Donny James
177 posts
Dec 09, 2007
7:03 PM
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hay butch, i'm doing good and hanging in there i lost about 20 lbs so far plan to a lot more heres my email address if you want to give me a private email to check on me PFRC_1@yahoo.com and you have a goodnight.........donny james
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PR_rollers
206 posts
Dec 09, 2007
9:09 PM
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Butch... I'm with you on this,been breaking my head too on getting something done to save our birds without hurting the BOP.just so he won't touch our birds and leave them be,
For three days i try the rockets I the plant a few on my land .and since here in PR ,they celebrate Christmas like its the 4th of July I can make noises and no one cares they think I'm celebrating .after ten in the morning and 5PM I try it..well at 10:30AM i release my birds sure enough the falcon went for them i lit up the sky and firecrackers going off for about ten seconds he left empty handed,came back in the evening again he left empty handed.for three days it work the last time he caught one but let it go from the distraction noises.I save that one bird life...but we have to think of something I can't keep this up after X-mas plus i want to fly my birds at 7AM where it is more cooler than 10AM.. I was thinking about running oil all over the birds so it can slip out his claws when he grabs them like slippery when wet you know...let me know how it turns out with your plans ...and I do the same..
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Ralph....
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Electric-man
942 posts
Dec 09, 2007
9:30 PM
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You guys have done pretty good so far, but be careful with these conversations. Just in case some new guys that haven't read the posting policy chime in, read this:
The Following Is Not Allowed:
• Pictures, plans or descriptions of traps intended to catch federally protected birds of prey or comments or advice of any methods or tools designed to or intended to harass or discourage a protected bird from its normal habits. General discussion of the MTBA, birds of prey and related topics are allowed.
Their could be eyes watching what we say!
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Val
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smoke747
112 posts
Dec 09, 2007
10:38 PM
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FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH, I DON'T DOUBT IT!!!!!!!!
STAY COOL FELLAS, PLEASE. I DON'T WANT ANY OF YOU TO GO THROUGH IT.
SMOKE747
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PR_rollers
209 posts
Dec 09, 2007
10:48 PM
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Val ,Smoke,, I hear you ,,good looking out ..
I do know there people watching and i do nothing illegal and invite them over to see what i do.. maybe they can help light up a fire cracker with me.. every time i look down i miss a bird rolling..:))----------
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Drama Side
26 posts
Dec 10, 2007
10:28 AM
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It might be a mess but I was thinking about peanut butter. It stops a dog from biting. So if he get one he will have nothing but peanut butter and feathers in his mouth. He won't be able to eat. The only other thing I think might work for us in southern California. Is go on stike from flying for a whole year or two.
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ezeedad
151 posts
Dec 10, 2007
11:00 AM
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I was talking to a guy who told me that some people have tried putting green color on their rollers, and that the hawks, etc, don't want to mess with them because they resemble parrots...
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turkey buzzard
13 posts
Dec 10, 2007
12:31 PM
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A neighbor of mine found one of my pigeons being eaten by a hawk and called me over to witness it. The hawk was the size of a Coopers but had a bigger/fatter head, shorter tail, shorter stubbier wings, and very red/orange colored breast. The hawk started at the head and worked her way down to the middle of the chest. Can anyone guess from the description what type of hawk got the birds X 3.
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PR_rollers
214 posts
Dec 10, 2007
6:04 PM
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Smoke ,,you ask this to there face? and if yes what did they say to that ?
I don't know about the peanut butter ,they might next time just wait for the jelly ,,lol..
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Ralph....
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gotspin7
794 posts
Dec 11, 2007
5:24 AM
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Turkey, I am thinking one of those cross bred peregrins with a harris hawk?
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Sal Ortiz
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J T
76 posts
Dec 11, 2007
1:33 PM
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Fying birds is TOUGH!!
37 seconds after release today.
Lunch was served:(((
JT
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sundance
324 posts
Dec 11, 2007
4:18 PM
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Val, and Smoke, I get your point. I certainly was not looking to do or cause any harm to ANY bird with this thread. I was simply looking for a way to make our birds less appealing to their birds. If I can save just one of mine this year, which might turn out to be the right one, it would be worth the effort.
I can see how a bottle rocket might be pushing the envelope, but something to make them smell bad or look out of their normal food group seemed innocent enough to me...HMMMMM Kinda like putting up an invisible fence around them.
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Butch @
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silentroll
257 posts
Dec 11, 2007
5:50 PM
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Turkey try red shoulder hawk...
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Electric-man
945 posts
Dec 11, 2007
7:24 PM
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I think we're pushing it a little too hard guys! Tony hasn't told me to relax on this subject!
Posting policy
Not allowed:
Comments or advice of any methods or tools designed to or intended to harass or discourage a protected bird from its normal habits.
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Val
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