smoke747
141 posts
Dec 12, 2007
11:21 AM
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DO ANY OF YOU BREED OUT OF OLD BIRDS(10YRS +)?
WHY OR WHY NOT
SMOKE747
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glenn
64 posts
Dec 12, 2007
11:50 AM
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Keith:
If the bird has value & I think I can get something out of it, I will. Kowning that the ratio of good to bad is going toward the bad side as the bird gets older you can breed out of very old birds......Glenn
Last Edited by on Dec 12, 2007 11:50 AM
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Mount Airy Lofts
316 posts
Dec 12, 2007
3:00 PM
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Yes, why not if it can still produce the goods. A friend of mine has a bird that is 22 years old, that is still filling the eggs. Still producing very good birds in the air. I have a son of this old stud that I am very happy with as well in the breeding pen.
I don't believe there are any expiration date on the ability to produce the goods. I hear Racing Homer guys say that you should use young studs to produce the goods. I hear Roller guys say that you should wait a couple of years for the bird to mature before seeing the full breeding ability. From my experience, a young bird can produce just as good of quality stud as a very old bird. Cull will produce more culls as they say.
Thor
P.S. My current breeders were bred from 10 year old plus breeders. Tried pairing old with young (10 plus cocks to 4 or less years Hens vice versa)
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smoke747
146 posts
Dec 12, 2007
6:43 PM
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GLEN IS THAT A FACT THAT WHEN A BIRD GETS OLDER HE DOES NOT PRODUCE AS GOOD IN REGARDS TO QUALITY OR IS THAT WITH YOUR FAM. I HAVE NOT STUDIED THIS OR NOTICED IT IN MY FAM AS OF YET.
SMOKE747
Last Edited by on Dec 12, 2007 7:24 PM
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Drama Side
30 posts
Dec 12, 2007
6:48 PM
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Keith hit me up
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hectorvicki2003@yaho
119 posts
Dec 12, 2007
6:48 PM
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If a bird is producing top quality birds for you ,they will produce good birds even if he is 12 or older.
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Hector Coya
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glenn
65 posts
Dec 12, 2007
9:13 PM
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Keith:
Prime breeding years 3 to 8 or 9 years old. There are exceptions to this, but the only way to prove that is not to turn your birds over and keep your present stock breeding past 10 years old. I have bred out of older birds mostly cocks & the older they get the %'s go down.
Glenn
P.S. 520 is 13 years old & showing his age....you want to try him out?
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gotspin7
808 posts
Dec 13, 2007
4:46 AM
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Keith, I would if I had one that old my oldest ones are about 8 years old! Glenn, that is interesting.
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Sal Ortiz
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glenn
67 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:07 AM
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Hello Keith:
You can do that but remember 842 is his grandmother on one side & great grandmother on the other side. The cock is highly inbred already and your are taking it back to itself.
Glenn
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smoke747
150 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:19 AM
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842's daughter or grandaughter is a cross between navarro's old fam and the jackson birds. i'll talk to earnest m. today and see what we can do.
are you comming to the show on saturday(15th)?
smoke747
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glenn
68 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:44 AM
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Hello Keith:
No I am not going to the show (grandpa duties) But I will be here Saturday Afternoon & Sunday. Make sure what ever you put him on has good type....Glenn
Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 8:44 AM
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smoke747
153 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:55 AM
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NO PROBLEM
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CSRA
741 posts
Dec 14, 2007
8:11 AM
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Keith i would it depends on how important the bird would be to me if the breeding would change things for me in a positive direction i would
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smoke747
159 posts
Dec 14, 2007
8:56 AM
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CSRA, DO FEEL SOME BIRDS ARE JUST STEPPING STONES, TO GET YOU TO A CERTAIN LEVEL THEN MOVED ON FROM?
SMOKE747
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CSRA
744 posts
Dec 14, 2007
9:02 AM
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Keith you are absolutely correct i acquired birds from an individual use them and move on from them
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