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spanky
173 posts
Dec 12, 2007
9:05 PM



A TWO BIRD ENTRY WILL BE $150.00 DOLLERS, THERE WILL BE 50 ENTRIES. PRICE MONEY WILL BE $4.000 DOLLERS WITH $2.000 TO FIRST PLACE PIGEON AND $1.000 TO THE 2nd PLACE PIGEON AND $500.00 TO THE 3rd PLACE PIGEON AND 4th PLACE THRU 20th ALL ENTERED IN A RAFLE TO WIN $500.00 DOLLERS...

FOR MORE INFO.CALL GEORGE, (702)982-2651 or g1ruiz@cox.net

Last Edited by on Dec 12, 2007 9:06 PM
silentroll
262 posts
Dec 12, 2007
9:33 PM
seems a whole lot of money...
elopez
132 posts
Dec 12, 2007
10:15 PM
Where will the kits be located and who will be flying them?

If Keith doesn't do one this year, I may enter a bird. Are you entering a bird?
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
gotspin7
806 posts
Dec 13, 2007
4:43 AM
Spanky, who is flying the birds? Sounds good!
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Sal Ortiz
3757
395 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:39 AM
Spanky - Count me in. Let me know what is the criteria they are using to judge and what are the deadlines to get youngsters in. I will pay for my spots right away.

su hermano para vivo
Dr. LD

Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 5:40 AM
CSRA
729 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:07 AM
I am all in let me know the judging standards
Drama Side
31 posts
Dec 13, 2007
9:10 AM
I'm in when is the deadline to send in your birds
John
109 posts
Dec 13, 2007
11:13 AM
Don't get me wrong I think it's a great idea. I'm willing to send my entries. There's just a Couple of things I have a question on.The 4th-20th guy going into a raffle? I think it should be spread a little more evenly,with some prize money maybe going to the top 10,20 or something.The way it is now the top three guys win. I mean 50 enteries at $150.00 is $7,500.00,plus there's the raffle of the top 20 birds in which half goes to the the club and half to the owner. I'm not crazy I know the birds have to be fed and taking care of and I know that the loft manager has to spend alot of time training and working with the birds. Feed cost and time is priceless.Again I'm not knocking the idea I'm just saying I think more will be willing to enter if the feel the have a chance a winning some type of prize money. Even if it's just there entry fee back. The other thing is what happens to the birds that don't make the top 20? I'm looking forward to it!

John

Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 12:04 PM
J T
79 posts
Dec 13, 2007
12:01 PM
Don’t be SHY,.,
Wined them up & send them on in.
You can’t win,, if your not in. :)


JT
Ballrollers
1001 posts
Dec 13, 2007
12:51 PM
Do you get your birds back after the fly or are they auctioned? And who will manage the kit? Will they quarantine and treat the birds with antibiotics etc.?
Cliff

Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 12:52 PM
spanky
174 posts
Dec 13, 2007
3:59 PM




HEY GUY'S, THE GUY THAT IS DOING THIS IS GEORGE RUIZ FROM LAS VEGAS. I THINK THE BIRDS NEED TO BE IN BY JANUARY. BUT YOU COULD SAVE YOUR PERCH AHEAD OF TIME. IF ANY BODY INTERESTED YOU COULD CONTACT GEORGE RUIZ AT (702)982-2651 OR G1RUIZ@COX.NET HE COULD TELL YOU THE RULES OR ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE.

Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 4:02 PM
George R.
1 post
Dec 19, 2007
2:15 PM
Well guys it looks like I got 15 entries so far. If I dont get 50 entries this fly will be cancelled and all the deposits will be returned to the participants.


Any constructive criticism or feedback on why this fly will work or will not work is greatly appreciated .I was trying to put something together that would give someone a chance to win some cash and have a pigeon crowned a True U.S.A. Champion.

The rules and regulations will come out on the next issue of the N.B.R.C. bulletin.

Thanks George
Ballrollers
1008 posts
Dec 19, 2007
5:33 PM
George,
I'm just waiting on the answers to my questions above.....
Cliff
George R.
2 posts
Dec 19, 2007
5:55 PM
Cliff the birds that finish 1st thru 20th place will be auctioned to the highest bidder with 50% going to the breeder and 50% to the L.V.R.C.

All birds remaining after that will be offered back to their breeders but they will have to pay for the shipping and box to return the birds to them .

Cliff if you have any ideas I'm all ears.

Thanks George

Last Edited by on Dec 19, 2007 6:15 PM
spanky
223 posts
Dec 31, 2007
4:41 PM


JUST BRINGING IT UP AGAIN. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN??????

Last Edited by on Dec 31, 2007 4:42 PM
elopez
288 posts
Dec 31, 2007
6:45 PM
Are you sending one Spanky? I'm going to wait till it's done here in S. Cali. I would feel better knowing it's closer and that I could check them out flying.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
3757
445 posts
Dec 31, 2007
6:57 PM
Spanky - i am in. I called Ruiz twice and left a message but he has not called me back.
spanky
226 posts
Dec 31, 2007
7:01 PM


I HAVE NOTHING TO SEND. I'LL WILL START BREEDING END OF JAN. MAYBE NEXT YEAR.

SPANKY
SGVS
George R.
7 posts
Dec 31, 2007
7:40 PM
Efren if some one does a fly in California I will send a entry in a heart beat , thats the kinda guy I am a FLYER. ,althou I dont see how a kit would last a year flying in those kind of conditions (PREDATERS) . If a person can fly for 5 months out of the year Cali I would consider them LUCKY.

Here in Vegas I am still flying everyday (knock on wood ).

3757 my email address is g1ruiz@cox.net and my cell phone is 702-917-9821 .I dont know who you talked to at my house but they dont write my messages down becuase I get anywhere
between 5 to 10 calls a day from friends who have birds.

The best way to contact me is my email but if someone needs to talk to me call me on my cell phone-702-917-9821.

Thanks George

Last Edited by on Dec 31, 2007 7:51 PM
elopez
289 posts
Dec 31, 2007
8:53 PM
Hello George,

You are very fortunate to have those conditions. Was trying to feed my #1 team today, a few got out so I decided to let them all up and 3 coopers stopped by then a falcon. lost 3 today. Maybe your right, LV would be a better place to fly them, it's rough out here.

Or maybe Rudy could fly them out in TX as he can fly all year long.

Little short on cash these days, still have to pay some fines but would definitely consider the next one. Keep us posted.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
George R.
10 posts
Dec 31, 2007
10:28 PM
A two bird entry is 150.00 dollers it can be from a single breeder a Club or two indivduals 1 bird each at 75.00 dollers .

If I get enough entries from the Los angeles area I will try to work with everyone and see if we can all get on the same page and I will make a run out to say Pomona to Spankys house
( so we can go have some Tacos at Omanas on Holt) and pick up the birds from thier breeders and that would save the shipping money and the box.

Lets say March 5 everyone can meet me in Pomona and I will pick up the birds.

also the day the prize money will be awarded there will be a lawn show and a raffle and food at my loft and the birds will be flown before thay are auctioned off. That should be April 15 2009 that will give everyone's birds a chance to come into a hard spin making it fair as we all know some birds start rolling at 3,4,5,6,7,8,9, Month's depending on the family of birds.

As the loft manager I will not be able to enter any birds .


I will have regular updates on my website informing everyone to any birds that get lost, injured, ETC.

The rules should be in the next Issue of the N.B.R.C. Bulletin.

All birds will be vaccinated for P.M.V. and wormed .


We are hoping that this will become a stepping stone to one day being able to host the N.B.R.C. Convention in Las Vegas.

Last Edited by on Dec 31, 2007 10:35 PM
3757
447 posts
Dec 31, 2007
10:47 PM
George - This sounds like a plan!
gabe454
77 posts
Jan 01, 2008
10:03 AM
question how will you distinguish each and everyones bird when thier in the air mr.riuz?
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
George R.
11 posts
Jan 01, 2008
12:04 PM
Hello Gabe

If two or more birds look alike I will Mark them with tape on the tail or I can fly them in seperate groups ,theres a few ways to distinguish the birds .

I dont think that will be a problem . That was a good question Gabe ,I appreciate you taking the time to ask.

George
L.V.R.C.
gabe454
78 posts
Jan 01, 2008
12:11 PM
wouldn't it be better if you guys would paint one certain color under its wings just a suggestion my best to peolpe participating in the fly
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
George R.
12 posts
Jan 03, 2008
2:36 PM
Well guys the entries are coming in , dont get left out

heres a chance to participate in a contest to crown a true Champion.
George R.
13 posts
Jan 03, 2008
9:18 PM
Got three more entry's today almost there



Thanks George
George R.
16 posts
Jan 04, 2008
7:55 PM
Former fall fly winner is IN guess who ??

I will give you a hint he's from northern Cali and is one of the nicest persons around .

Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2008 7:59 PM
luis
466 posts
Jan 04, 2008
8:35 PM
Wish i had something worthy to send George.Hopefully next year!
elopez
316 posts
Jan 04, 2008
10:35 PM
George,

Man, I think your talking me into it...lol

I'll get with my brother and see if he want's to go half with me so we can each send a bird. Hopefully you'll get a few breeders out in LA area so we can just meet up at Spanky's house and fly some birds.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
George R.
17 posts
Jan 04, 2008
11:03 PM
Efren

That would be great if you guys could participate .



George
spanky
238 posts
Jan 05, 2008
9:45 AM


WAS UP EFREN, SO ARE YOU IN! ME AND HECTOR WERE ALSO TALKING ABOUT IT. IS JUST I DONT REALLY HAVE A PAIR THAT IS STABLE. ALOT OF THEN ARE DEEP, BUT WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

SPANKY
SGVS
Fire Brewed Rollers
43 posts
Jan 05, 2008
7:10 PM
Hi guys

Put me in, I want to fly a couple birds also. This really sounds like a lot of fun to be had.

George if you need my # Spanky will give it to you.
The Pomona pick up will be good for me also.
George if you want some $ before the pickup let me know, I will just pay in full or give the $ to Spanky if you want. I will call you direct in a couple days.

Robert Miller
Fire Brewed Rollers
SGVS
Skylineloft
835 posts
Jan 05, 2008
7:24 PM
Robert,
Did you get my e-mail ?
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Ray

Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
Fire Brewed Rollers
44 posts
Jan 05, 2008
7:44 PM
Hi Ray

Just looked and no E-Mail yet, 7:40 PM

Robert Miller
Fire Brewed Rollers
SGVS
elopez
324 posts
Jan 07, 2008
10:10 PM
George,

What age should the birds be when turned over to you? I haven't put my pair down as it's still pretty bad with the bop. But still want to enter a bird let me know so I can put them down with enough time.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS

Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2008 10:20 PM
elopez
326 posts
Jan 07, 2008
10:31 PM
George,

Maybe you can give us some info on how the birds will be judged..over all best? Speed, style, freq., dept, kitting?

Also, will they be judged on the final fly or over all?

Just want to get a better idea on which bird might work best...

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Efren Lopez
SGVS

Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2008 10:32 PM
Skylineloft
867 posts
Jan 07, 2008
11:19 PM
Robert Miller,
Did you get anything yet ?
I think I sent you a invitation.
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Ray

Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
Fire Brewed Rollers
46 posts
Jan 08, 2008
8:54 AM
Hi Ray

No E-Mail yet. millerh2o@aol.com
Make sure to use the letter o and not the zero.
I resent you my e-mail address, hopefully it will go OK.

Thanks
Robert
George R.
21 posts
Jan 08, 2008
11:06 AM
Efren

Age of birds should be between 5 to 8 weeks of age and judging will be over a period of one and a half Months prior to the award show. April 19 2009

Birds will be judged by depth,quality, velocity,kitting,
frequency,

color and type will have no effect on the outcome this contest is for PERFORMANCE only.
quickspin
244 posts
Jan 08, 2008
12:04 PM
Who from LA wants to send one bird only so we can paid $75 each?
George R.
22 posts
Jan 10, 2008
2:44 PM
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spanky
255 posts
Jan 12, 2008
4:57 PM


HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SENDING IN BIRDS. I'M THINKING OF SENDING ONE.

SPANKEY
SGVS
George R.
29 posts
Jan 12, 2008
4:59 PM
Robert Miller



I got your deposit today YOUR IN !!!

Good Luck
George
spanky
257 posts
Jan 12, 2008
5:17 PM



GEORGE HOW MANY ENTRIES YOU GOT FROM LA?

SPANKY
SGVS

Last Edited by on Jan 12, 2008 5:18 PM
elopez
342 posts
Jan 12, 2008
5:24 PM
Hey Spanky,

Just put my birds down, all 32 pairs. Hopefully I will have one ready for the fly.

George, when is the cutoff on sending birds just in case the bird is not ready when/if you come to Pomona?
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
gotspin7
1204 posts
Jan 13, 2008
5:12 AM
E, I taught I was doing good!LOL! WOW!
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Sal Ortiz
CSRA
1122 posts
Jan 13, 2008
6:45 AM
Whats up Sal
George R.
34 posts
Jan 13, 2008
8:03 AM
Hey Dale C.

King of Pico Rivera ! are you in this FLY!!!!
Built4Speed
54 posts
Jan 13, 2008
8:08 AM
Probably not Big George, funds are low Christmas killed me
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Dale
SGVS


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