Snake Doctor
82 posts
Dec 13, 2007
1:50 PM
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Finally finished, all that's left are the perches and birds to sit on them. I have 6, 07 birds just starting to roll.
Much thanks to all who have posted pictures, I borrowed ideas from many to try to get what I think I need.
Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 2:10 PM
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Electric-man
947 posts
Dec 13, 2007
1:54 PM
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That will never work,Roy! You better let me come get that mess out of your yard so you can start over!LOL
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Val
"Site Moderator"
Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 2:08 PM
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ron
32 posts
Dec 13, 2007
2:00 PM
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Roy , one of the sweetest jobs i have in awhile ! Nice work .
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R.Luna/HDRC
LUNA'S LOFT
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Snake Doctor
83 posts
Dec 13, 2007
2:14 PM
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Well come on down Val, I had to cut some of those boards three times and they were still too short.
Now that it's done, I see some things I'd do different next time.
SD
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PR_rollers
238 posts
Dec 13, 2007
3:38 PM
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Hey Snake Doc ,,congrats on your new kit box hope it brings you many years of enjoyment with your birds ,,nicely done..
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Ralph....
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Skylineloft
553 posts
Dec 13, 2007
3:42 PM
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SD,
Excellent job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many birds do you think you will get in each box ?
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Oldfart
306 posts
Dec 13, 2007
3:46 PM
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Hey Jar Head, do you still have all your fingers? Can you count that high? ;-) Nice job, you make an old marine proud!! Good luck!!!
Thom
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Skylineloft
554 posts
Dec 13, 2007
3:55 PM
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Hey Thom,
Not sure about anyone else, but I can count to 8 ...LMAO
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Snake Doctor
84 posts
Dec 13, 2007
4:31 PM
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"Semper Fi" Thom, I still have all ten but some are shorter than others. I think I can still lock and load.
Ray, each compartment is 4' X 32" X 48" at front, 46" at the back. I think I will be able to put 22 or so birds in each side. I'm having a hard time trying to decide whether to use V perches or box perches. Is there an definitive advantedge one over the other?
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
689 posts
Dec 13, 2007
4:40 PM
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Nice kit boxes snake
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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Donny James
183 posts
Dec 13, 2007
4:59 PM
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hay snake very nice looking fly box ..............donny james
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sundance
329 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:17 PM
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VERY NICE JOB SNAKE. i LIKE THE PULL OUT TRAYS. IS THERE A COAT OF PAINT IN THE FUTURE? YOU KNOW YOU GOT TO PICTURE UP IF YA DO.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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PR_rollers
239 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:27 PM
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Snake I like the V-perches,because the birds are never standing on there crap,it falls on the side of perch ,I use to use the box perch but there feet was always on the crap and it gets messy, the only good thing about box perch is you can get more birds in the kit box,but i rather have less perch like 20 or 25 and not have it so crowded that it causes stress on the birds.. what it boils down too is what you prefer. check out my perches.after the birds come in through trap holes i have in middle of pen cage i have attach next to kit box..I take perches out one by one and scrape, or put a samll tray and scrape and drop it on tray instead of adding it to the ground below ,which you have a draws i notice so it don't matter in your case..
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I have a light for cleaning at night if i come home late..that light works with 4 double A battery .its great ,and that lil door you see on the door its my peekaboo window i watch them at night to see if they are dancing on their perches check for mites.. this way i don't open the big door and disturb the birds..
 hope this might help you decide..
Ralph....
Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 6:55 PM
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Snake Doctor
86 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:28 PM
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Yes, I'm a 3 coat painter, one on me, one on the ground and one on what's supposed to get painted. In the Corps we usually let the Navy paint for us. LMHO
SD
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black_hawk_down
59 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:35 PM
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grr i envy u guys!!! i need to get my stuff done too!!! argh!!! nice work!-joe
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Snake Doctor
88 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:44 PM
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Thanks Ralph for the look at your set, how much space did you allow between the perches? I like the spy hole and light.
I see one thing I wish I had done, that is to put the trap in the middle of the front, instead of the top left.
I am leaning toward the V perch just for ease of clean up, I'm fairly methodical about things (wife says organized to the point of boredom) make a plan, work the plan.
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Double R
179 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:49 PM
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Hey Snake,
Great job!! Now I know who to call when I need a couple new boxes built.LOL
One thing you may want to consider on your next kit box project and that's a double trap. That way your birds will be able to get inside the kit box faster. The faster they get inside the less of a target they are to the BOPs.
Robby
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Snake Doctor
89 posts
Dec 13, 2007
6:00 PM
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Thanks Robby, I went to your site and saw your set up, wish I had looked at it when I was in the planning stage, great Idea to have double trap, I think I can retro-fit an additional trap in these befor I paint.
SD
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Skylineloft
555 posts
Dec 13, 2007
6:08 PM
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SD,
I like the box perches, but there a little harder to build. From what I can see that should not be a problem for you. Here is a photo of the 3 hole kit box I built this year. Each hole holds 24 birds. Its about the same size as your box, except there are 3 compartments.
I bet you could do 30 perches per box easy.....
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
Last Edited by on Dec 13, 2007 6:26 PM
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PR_rollers
241 posts
Dec 13, 2007
6:09 PM
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Doc ,about 8 inches, i'm trying to find the website for the lights if you want it .they have a special now buy one for $9.99 and get three replacement bulb for free..you can also get the adapter for 9.99 you can plug it in no battery needed..
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Ralph....
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Snake Doctor
90 posts
Dec 13, 2007
6:42 PM
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Thanks Ralph I would appreciate the site for the light.
I like the triple box, I haven't thought about putting more than 22 birds to the box, isn't that the limit for a 20 bird kit in competition?
Don't know if I ever will fly in comp. but I'm gonna give it my best shot if the opportunity should present itself.
SD
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Skylineloft
556 posts
Dec 13, 2007
7:08 PM
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SD,
Yes 20 is the max, but, how many times a year do you think you will be doing that. The idea is to be able to fly out as many birds as you can in one year so that you will have more birds to choose from when you put your competition team together. So, the more you can fly out of those boxes you just built, the better chance you will have at putting together a good team for competition.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Snake Doctor
91 posts
Dec 13, 2007
7:23 PM
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Well with that bit of information I may as well maximize each side. I'll have to get the tape out and see how many v perches will fit and what I could do with box perches.
Thanks Ray for the info.
Thanks Ralph for the light site, have you tried a red bulb to see if the red light would disturb the birds less than white light, I use a red head light all the time going in and coming out of the woods, it doesn't spook the game like white light and doesn't mess up your night vision either.
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gotspin7
809 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:28 AM
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Nice fellas! Makes me want to build a couple more!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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CSRA
738 posts
Dec 14, 2007
7:56 AM
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You have some nice boxes good job
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smoke747
160 posts
Dec 14, 2007
9:02 AM
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I NEED TO GO IN THE BACK AND START A DEMOLITION PROJECT.LOL AND ORDER SOME KIT BOXES FROM YOU GUYS.
SMOKE747
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silentroll
263 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:22 PM
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Thats A nice one... Do U have a blue print...???
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Snake Doctor
92 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:31 PM
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I do have a plan of sorts, not a blue-print, it consists of about 8 sheets of graph paper, there was a continuing revelation as I would see different kit boxes and take what I liked from them. Shoot me your email and as soon as I get it in a usable form I'll scan you in a copy.
SD
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J T
87 posts
Dec 14, 2007
6:33 PM
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Electric-man is right!!
That junk will never work.
Call me and I will haul it off for you:))))
Great looking kit box.
JT
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PR_rollers
249 posts
Dec 14, 2007
6:42 PM
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Snake these lights are not as bright as the regular white lightbulb that we have in our house, is like 40% less brighter,i really like them don't bother the birds.
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Ralph....
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silentroll
264 posts
Dec 15, 2007
12:12 PM
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Here you go.
(cha.aaron@yahoo.com)
I'll also e-mail you through your email address on your profile. Thank You
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bman
523 posts
Dec 16, 2007
2:11 AM
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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Snake Doctor
95 posts
Dec 16, 2007
10:22 AM
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Great set up Ron, I see somethings I'll go to school on you for next time.
SD
Last Edited by on Dec 16, 2007 10:27 AM
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bman
524 posts
Dec 17, 2007
6:36 AM
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Ralph & SD thanks.
Ralph the sign was a gift from my nephew.......talented kid.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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gator45juice
10 posts
Dec 17, 2007
10:42 AM
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Hey Bman I love your loft idea. I am in the process of building a loft and I like your setup. I am interested in a very similar setup. I do not have alot of space and I need to do everything in one (Breeding, Flying, Break up). Could you please send me a still picture of your loft and the dimensions. I want to build mine very similar to yours. If you have the amount of material it took that would also be great. Please post or send the specifications to my email address at (gator45juice@yahoo.com or gator45juice@hotmail.com)
Thanks, Gator!
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bman
525 posts
Dec 17, 2007
11:16 AM
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Gator, the basic building is 8' x 8' with four flyouts.
Two on either side and a fifth inside facing forward.
I don't know if you can cram all your needs into that.
I'll send you a couple of pics and a rough sketch tonight.
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Ron
Borderline lofts
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gator45juice
11 posts
Dec 17, 2007
3:05 PM
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Thank you very much Bman. Please send me that info. That sounds like the size I am looking to build. Any sketches or pictures you have please forward it to me. My email address is (gator45juice@yahoo.com). Again thanx for getting back to me.
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J_Star
1475 posts
Dec 17, 2007
6:01 PM
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Snake or Doctor...I prefer to call you Doc(lol)...Just a hint that will help you for easy maintenance. For the tray, I use the weed block roll that you purchase from any hardware store and cut it to size to fit the tray. When time to clean, all you have to do is grab it from each cross corner and put it in yard plastic bag and take it to the curb. Cut a new piece and you are in business for the next month cleaning. It will give more time to enjoy your birds than cleaning.
Jay
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Snake Doctor
96 posts
Dec 18, 2007
10:15 AM
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Thanks for the tip Jay, call me either I'll answer to most, Pop always said that the letters behind a name, BSE, MSE, ThD are like the curl in a pigs tail, makes the pig purty but don't make a bit more pork.
SD
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gator45juice
50 posts
May 04, 2009
9:47 AM
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Thanx Snake, by the way, why do they call you "Snake Dr."?
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
249 posts
May 04, 2009
11:36 AM
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snake doctor- nice kit box, you might thank of putting a flag stone under each corner for the legs to sit on to keep termites out.JDA
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