Snake Doctor
85 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:12 PM
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I've noticed that it is common for a flyer to swicth birds from kit to kit maybe moving a bird or two up to A-team or down from it to B-team etc.
Do you have to re-settle the bird moved each time you move him from on box to the other?
I have some mature birds that were given me, I want to put them in with 6 young birds I have been flying, what do you recommend?
SD
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sundance
330 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:21 PM
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ARE THE MATURE BIRDS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BREED FROM? iF SO i WOULDN` FLY THEM, BUT THEY ARE YOUR BIRDS. IF YOU WANT TO FLY THEM KEEP THEM IN THE KITBOX FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND HANG A FLYPEN ON THE KITBOX FRONT SO THEY LEARN THE WAY IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEW HOME. ALSO THEY WILL GET USED TO HOW THE SURROUNDING AREA LOOKS.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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PR_rollers
240 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:34 PM
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some people have the kit box far from each other so they have to get the bird train to go into the other box ,no big deal though,,you have the boxes together so its no problem just open the door you want to let them in and they are in,they will follow the other birds in..
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Ralph....
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Snake Doctor
87 posts
Dec 13, 2007
5:35 PM
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I have 3 pair of Ruby's to breed and I'll concentrate on them, I thought of using these other birds as fosters, but I may breed them out just to see what I get. I don't have much info on them. With the new kit box I thought I might fly them with the young birds or by themselves.
SD
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Joe Dan
12 posts
Dec 13, 2007
8:35 PM
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If you do not know anything about them definately fly them before you breed out of them... or make pumpers out of them as you mentioned. If you do decide to fly them (and I would if thats all I had to fly), settle them in with the other birds as Butch mentioned with the training wire pen on the outside. Get the birds on a routine and use to their surroundings. I really suggest holding there feed the day you let them out with the young birds so they are hungry. Let them out of a morning so if they do get lost you have a better chance of them finding their way back home thaqt day. Don't spook or flag them the first time out of the box, so they do not feel uncomfortable at first in the new surroundings. And if it was me, I would only add 1-2 at a time in with your young birds(per fly day). Since you do not have a very large kit of youngsters you wantn these mature birds to become part of your existing team and not let them be a kit of their own... or take over the flying pattern witch mature birds will do.
Just some of the ideas from my buds that I didn't listen too at first and lost birds...
Good luck!
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Joe Dan Parson
Full Turn Lofts
North Texas
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J_Star
1463 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:05 AM
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Make sure when you open the door for the first time that one of their wing is taped with electrical tape so that you can determine their behavior and gives you an indication that they are homed. I have lost too many older birds with just two weeks of settling. I think they require one month. Their old location is still imaged in their memory and two weeks is not enough to erase that.
If you need info on how to tape their wings, just ask.
Jay
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CSRA
739 posts
Dec 14, 2007
7:58 AM
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I have to agree with JStar just be patient and watch them close bop will swipe
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Oldfart
308 posts
Dec 14, 2007
11:43 AM
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Hey Roy, My kit box is simular to yours except that I have a flypen attached to the back. I first load the flypen with birds from eather kitbox then release the kit from there. I also recover them through 45 degree P.V.C. traps in the flypen. This way no matter which side they are in, cock's or hen's, A or B, they are recovered in the same place then sorted if needed. Just a thought.
Semper Fi, Thom
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Snake Doctor
93 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:36 PM
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Thom,
Have you a picture of the fly pen? I did see on box that had that feature, did it reduce the number of perches you could put in the box? I like that idea, it would simplify things.
SD
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Oldfart
309 posts
Dec 14, 2007
2:16 PM
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Hey Roy, I posted pictures of my kitbox and attached flypen, I will find it and bring it up front for you to see.
Thom
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PR_rollers
245 posts
Dec 14, 2007
4:13 PM
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I agree with Joe Dan 100%,,,and when you have the birds trapping in with your call ,the battle is half way won..have them paying attention to you and not on escape...
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Ralph....
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J T
86 posts
Dec 14, 2007
6:26 PM
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Fly pen attached to kit box for two weeks.
Tape their wings.
Little to no feed for a couple of days.
Release when you have plenty of time to baby sit.
JT
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gotspin7
819 posts
Dec 15, 2007
6:23 AM
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Snake, I do that weekly!LOL! You should not have any trouble.
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Sal Ortiz
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classicpony
610 posts
Dec 15, 2007
6:03 PM
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I have 2 kitboxs the birds decide with one they want to use. Or go into.
Jim
Illinois
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J_Star
1478 posts
Dec 17, 2007
6:21 PM
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I have 4 kit boxes that are identical. The birds know which box is home and they wait to get in it. When they get into another box because the feed was in there, once done eating they want to leave to go into thier own box and onto their own perch. They are much smarter than what we give them credit for.
Jay
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Snake Doctor
97 posts
Dec 18, 2007
10:24 AM
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While visiting with a flyer a while back he had a bird get in the wrong side of a double kit box, he wasn't happy nor were the birds in the box until he left that box and got back in his own.
How far can you resonably move a kit box and have the birds trap without a problem, and not have to resettle them?
Would you move it before you release or get them out and up then move the box. I'm talking about just far enough to clean out from under it, 4 to 10 ft.
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