quickspin
182 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:27 PM
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I put my pairs together in November and the offspring will not be flown in till April.
My question is if I don't fly them a.s.a.p and lock them due to the BOP. For 4-5 months will they take them another 4 months to start to roll or sooner because of been older.
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Missouri-Flyer
1103 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:32 PM
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I have never tried locking ANY birds down until flown for a year... I dont see how they will develope into a decent bird without ANY flytime when young. This is a performance breed, and they need to fly in order to learn to perform...I think you will set them back to much..DONT BREED UNLESS YOU CAN FLY THEM!
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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W@yne
811 posts
Dec 14, 2007
1:41 PM
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I agree with Jerry
Young birds need to be flown real hard to bring out the roll in them and to developed the muscle in the pigeons growing.
Having birds that are unflown and young will only developed lazy habits and get into unwanted idle routines
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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quickspin
183 posts
Dec 14, 2007
2:06 PM
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I will then start to fly the young birds out and I hop the BOP leaves me alone.
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PR_rollers
247 posts
Dec 14, 2007
4:39 PM
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young birds are only young once,,you can help them change bad habits like landing on other roof,, kitting ect when they are 2,3,month old ,,but once mature its harder to control..start them out young,very young ,if not breed when you know you can fly them at the time they are ready.which is 6 to 8 weeks old.
----------like the guys above said they need to developed right from the start. I read somewhere here that Rick Mee had some bird that didn't fly until 5 or 6 month old because he was away in the service,and they turn out to be good spinners too..but he has alot experience and alot of people can do it,,but its bets to start them out young,,less headache for you..and the birds developed their muscle just right ,,right from the start..
Ralph....
Last Edited by on Dec 14, 2007 4:44 PM
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J_Star
1465 posts
Dec 14, 2007
4:48 PM
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You will not be able to get them to kit worth you know what!!
Jay
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Donny James
187 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:14 PM
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i agree with quikspin fly them as soon as posable
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rollerpigeon1963
204 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:17 PM
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I talked about this on another post. I have never had any luck raising birds in the winter and then flying them in the spring. I remember one year I heated my loft and had a boat load of babies. As soon as April rolled around I got those 4 and 5 moth old birds in the air. And man was that a pain in the butt. I mean I had tree sitters, non-kitters, and just basically junk birds. It took for ever for them to kit. And wasn't worth holding them up during the winter. I learned this first hand and I will never do it again.
That is why you need to time your breeding season around the time you have to lockdown. Like for me I can't turn any birds out before April. So I pair up the birds in mid to late feb. And hope I have babies out around the middle of March. So when the first of April rolls around I have babies ready to take to the sky.
So from my own experience you really dont want the birds older than 3 weeks after weaning to have flying. They are strong on the wing, they are fat and want to land in trees and they are to strong in the head where they wont kit.
Best of luck
Brian Middaugh
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J_Star
1466 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:21 PM
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Brian,
Nice to hear from you. I live in the same kind of environment and do the same thing you said. It is very pain to fly birds that are few months old and never been flawn. They end up culled.
Jay
Last Edited by on Dec 14, 2007 5:21 PM
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Skylineloft
564 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:22 PM
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Good advise BK & Jay!!!!!!
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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quickspin
184 posts
Dec 14, 2007
5:52 PM
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I release the young birds and some of the older birds. The young birds started to fly a little and some got with the older birds and kit.
The BOP came and I lost 3 birds I hope they come back tomorrow. This is the reason I don't fly the birds now, so I guess I will have to risk it on April and just cull hard. Atleast I will have them alive and in the perch to look at every day.
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J T
84 posts
Dec 14, 2007
6:07 PM
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NOPE,
You may be the exception to the rule.
Unless you need a certain trait from
a click pair. In my opinion they have to
flown / trained at a young age.
Just like us old people learning the computer,
most 9yr olds can run circles around us.
We hunt & peck, stumble & fumble,
While they type, watch T.V. talk on the cell phone,
listen to their I – Pod, play videos & eat,
while never missing a beat.
Learn while your young, ENJOY when you’re OLD:)))
JT
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J_Star
1467 posts
Dec 14, 2007
6:11 PM
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Good words of wisdom...JT.
Jay
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Missouri-Flyer
1112 posts
Dec 15, 2007
9:03 AM
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LMAO JT,
Nice wording for us older guys.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2808 posts
Apr 01, 2009
6:58 PM
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Lesson learn don't breed what you can't fly...good post..
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Ralph.
miss opportunity are the curse of potential well if opportunity is not knocking you build the door...
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