chris
4 posts
Dec 25, 2007
6:37 AM
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HELLO
how may in the USA are flying the Monty Niebel family? tell us about them .i have them and love them.. ive kept mine pure..
chris, az
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3757
406 posts
Dec 25, 2007
7:02 AM
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Chris - The most undisputed article written about Monty's family is the one that Bruce Cooper wrote in 2002 in the NBRC bulletin. His foundation was from Bruce Cooper but Monty's family became his after 30 plus years of breeding them. He did use birds from Bruce throughout that period and some Plona stock which Bruce does not consider to be an outcross due to Bruce's line being heavy Plona background.
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tapp
516 posts
Dec 25, 2007
7:24 AM
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I'm flying Weins, almost the same thing. I love the birds. Have some fine one's in my A team. I'll know more in about 30 years!
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Tapp
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CSRA
966 posts
Dec 25, 2007
7:40 AM
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I would like to see some pics of the birds of the Monty family
Last Edited by on Dec 25, 2007 7:41 AM
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Fire_Baller_916
54 posts
Dec 25, 2007
11:48 AM
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Here's an old pair that i had back then but i sold them...
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ezeedad
199 posts
Dec 25, 2007
9:20 PM
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I went through about 50 Neibel birds which were bred by Brian Krog, who got the birds after Neibels' death. I paired the birds up for Rick Camat, who had gone up to Vancouver to buy them. The birds had really great bodies, were very strong, and had outstanding feather, but in my opinion the expression was all over the place..
Neibel bred his birds strictly on their performance, and I believe that is why their expression varied so much. Brian said that they should all be bred and then culled very hard, but in my opinion, if they would be selected on the ground for the breeding loft as well as in the air he would get a higher percentage.
Since Monty Neible won more World Cups that anybody else, though, his record should speak for itself. He fed his birds an all wheat diet, I think.. a type of special red wheat that had more protien, plus some type of mineral supplements...and he never medicated..or wormer or anything..
Rick never really trained the youngsters off the pairs he got, so I didn't get to see them develop.
Paul
Last Edited by on Dec 25, 2007 9:24 PM
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gotspin7
959 posts
Dec 26, 2007
5:56 AM
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Firebaler, why did you get rid of them they look good!
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Sal Ortiz
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gotspin7
961 posts
Dec 26, 2007
6:00 AM
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3757, glad to see you back!
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Sal Ortiz
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3757
414 posts
Dec 26, 2007
6:02 AM
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Sal - Thanks but I never left. I have just been observing the post.
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gotspin7
964 posts
Dec 26, 2007
6:04 AM
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Sorry about that I did not see you active.LOL!
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Sal Ortiz
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Mongrel Lofts
475 posts
Dec 26, 2007
7:50 PM
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This is one of three brothers
and one sister that Monty had
stocked at the time of his death.
He has made some nice birds.. IRA-95-#1595
Last Edited by on Dec 26, 2007 7:52 PM
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Fire_Baller_916
55 posts
Dec 26, 2007
8:04 PM
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I sold them because i didnt have room to breed them anymore...They were some really small birds and strong flyers...
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gotspin7
983 posts
Dec 27, 2007
5:40 AM
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Laron, we also need your input!
Kgb, nice one!
Fire, are you breeding a different family now?
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Sal Ortiz
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CSRA
998 posts
Dec 27, 2007
5:41 AM
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Now thats a great looking red checker love it good job
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Ragin Rollers
31 posts
Dec 27, 2007
7:10 AM
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Chris Az.
Who are you and where do tou live........
Russ.................
Ragin Rollers........
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Fire_Baller_916
57 posts
Dec 27, 2007
9:49 AM
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Right now im trying to work with the Jac's family but i havent really had the time to train them due to the BOP's...
Last Edited by on Dec 27, 2007 9:53 AM
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mcroller
45 posts
Dec 27, 2007
12:25 PM
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I fly nothing but Nieble birds,from John Wiems,and they are great
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kopetsa
1697 posts
Oct 02, 2008
2:17 PM
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Are there any of Monty Neibels breeders (birds right out of his loft) that are still alive..?
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Andrew
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3757
940 posts
Oct 02, 2008
2:30 PM
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Kopetsa - Yes there are. I know a few people who have them but they got the birds in the mid nineties so these pigeons are old. On the other hand there are others who probably have birds Monty bred in 2000-2002 as I believe he died in 2002 as this is what my memory tells me. These pigeons would not be that old.
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rollernewbie
75 posts
Oct 02, 2008
3:43 PM
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i heard his birds were good...i was planning to get some..but cant find any...hopefully in the future...
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-Billy
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kopetsa
1699 posts
Oct 02, 2008
4:31 PM
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Oh yeah.. thats what I meant 'Monty Bred'.. Thanks for the info..
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Andrew
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TimP
73 posts
Oct 02, 2008
8:55 PM
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Ya there is a guy in my club that has 7 bred by Monty at his house in LA area. He just donated a pair at the Visalia show he got them off the NBRC auction around 7 to 10 years ago.
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John
179 posts
Oct 03, 2008
7:52 AM
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Tim,
Mine are banded 1999 and they are still producing. I have them down right now so a friend can fly some out and add the new blood to the ones that he already had from the early 1990's.
John
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TimP
76 posts
Oct 03, 2008
8:28 PM
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Good to here from ya John, it's crazy that it's been going on 10 years since you picked up those birds. See ya at the closed show!
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