Missouri-Flyer
1163 posts
Dec 25, 2007
10:12 AM
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Tou,
I use open loft, and always will. My birds are close enough that I have no worries.. I pair the birds up in there breeding boxes, until their first egg is laid, then they are released into the open area... Open loft not only gives them exercise that they need, but is more natural for the birds.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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glenn
71 posts
Dec 25, 2007
10:34 AM
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Here is my set-up...Glenn
Last Edited by on Dec 25, 2007 1:00 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
817 posts
Dec 25, 2007
10:38 AM
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I use open loft ....
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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glenn
72 posts
Dec 25, 2007
1:11 PM
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Hello:
Open loft breeding is just that, you mate up the birds and then let them free loft after that. There will be claim jumping going on so you have to observe your birds and keep good records. If you want to insure that your birds mate up as you intended then stall breed. So far as flying goes it has nothing to do with they way you breed.......Glenn
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Missouri-Flyer
1165 posts
Dec 25, 2007
1:17 PM
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Tou,
You dont have to have doors on your breeding pens, but it makes it easier to put the birds together, and making sure they mate. If you just toss 4 cocks and 4 hens into an open loft, they will mate how they want to.
The training in open loft versus Indi. pen is the same.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Skylineloft
682 posts
Dec 25, 2007
1:24 PM
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I know that most of you have seen these photos before, but for Tou, I will post them one more time.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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W@yne
845 posts
Dec 25, 2007
2:02 PM
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Ray thats one hell of a smart breeding pen buddy
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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jerries loft
63 posts
Dec 25, 2007
2:30 PM
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nice set up ray makes me jealous.
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Missouri-Flyer
1169 posts
Dec 25, 2007
2:46 PM
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yes and yes
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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sundance
346 posts
Dec 25, 2007
3:50 PM
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Very nicely built Ray. My compliments to the carpenter in you. I can only assume the rest of the loft is as nice.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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quickspin
203 posts
Dec 25, 2007
4:21 PM
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Ray your breeding loft is perfect, it's like having them in individual breeding departments. Any one who would like to have a open loft should add the compartments to lock them before releasing them in to the open just to be sure on the father.
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elopez
205 posts
Dec 25, 2007
4:59 PM
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Real nice set up Ray.
Here is my set up. Tony sells the Green door's. When I put them down, I lock them in and let out 5 pairs at a time to eat and to fly back to their nesting hole and I keep doing this until they lay or around 7-10 days. By then they know which hole belongs to them. I had an individual set up before but it is very time consuming and it's much easier with open loft. There is chances of cocks jumping on another hen but most of my birds are somewhat related and I usually lock them in their nesting holes when they start mating again.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
Last Edited by on Dec 25, 2007 5:00 PM
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quickspin
205 posts
Dec 25, 2007
5:52 PM
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Nice loft Efren, well done.
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Missouri-Flyer
1174 posts
Dec 25, 2007
6:23 PM
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Tou,
If your current birds are of good quality, then yes, in an open loft system, you will get good birds in return.
Nice setup Efren
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Double R
196 posts
Dec 26, 2007
7:54 AM
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Tou,
Open loft means just that. One extra big cage with enough nest boxes for the amount of pairs you put in that cage to have their own nest (More than 1 pair). You can pair them up in individual cages then after they pair up release them into the open loft.
Individual breeding means: Each pair gets their own cage. (one pair to one cage). I hope this helps...
Robby
Last Edited by on Dec 26, 2007 7:56 AM
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TheGame
294 posts
Nov 09, 2008
9:25 PM
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How do you guys clean out your nest boxs that have fronts attached to them??
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TheGame
295 posts
Nov 09, 2008
9:35 PM
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lol what if I don't have any teenage boys at the moment >_<
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Rob408
1 post
Nov 09, 2008
11:49 PM
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I'm new to rollers but when I use to race homers, I used a plastic grill with a tray directly underneath it. Just pull out the tray, scoop and move to the next one. The only way you can be 100% guaranteed with the parents is a closed system. Either way you go, good luck.
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mario
GOLD MEMBER
218 posts
Nov 10, 2008
5:08 AM
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I use open loft too ,i think it s more natural but you need to have the same family .........Mario
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rtwilliams
237 posts
Nov 10, 2008
6:34 AM
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I used an open loft this year and am questioning the father on a few. I have a pair from Jay Starley line that are both Blue Checks (black), somehow I get red checks (Duns) out of them? I also have a Billings/Campbell pair that have a squeak that has white flights ,tail feathers and badge markings, Neither parent shows this and the family doesn't typically have more than a feather or 2 that are white.
I am building individual pens for next year. JMO
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RT Williams
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
1937 posts
Nov 10, 2008
7:30 PM
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RT That's why individual pens are the way to go...Efren use to use open now he use ind and the system he uses saves him more time then when open...imagine that..that what you see up there posted is his old way..Efren if you reading this post your Individual..
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Ralph
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RodSD
23 posts
Nov 10, 2008
7:54 PM
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Nice lofts guys. I believe the question is already answered.
I've read one time that a hen can use which sperm to fertilized the eggs. I think they can store sperm somewhere and based on what the hen wants, she can "choose" internally which sperm to fertilize her eggs. Man, I wish I can remember the article. They even show the sperm pouch inside a hen. It could have been a scientific article.
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TheGame
297 posts
Nov 10, 2008
8:17 PM
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Yea that was another thing I have always wondered...do pigeons have a sperm bank??
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RXR Loft
324 posts
Nov 10, 2008
9:32 PM
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I breed open also, when I put my birds together I stagger them. I put two pairs together at a time, so theses two can get their groove on and settle in their breeding box for a few days. than I put two more together. only letting the pairs out after the first egg has been laid.
so later on when you are on the second or third round the cocks don't have any chance of hopping on another hen, being that the hens are too wrapped up in caring for their young
sound strange but it works.
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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yang501424
196 posts
Nov 11, 2008
8:04 AM
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I use to breed open loft but now I am doing individual breeding. One of the most thing I miss about open loft is that you can watch your birds interact with each other. When I try to enjoy a few minutes just watching my birds now I get bored really fast because all they do in the individual is sit and look at you.
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Good Game Loft
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