gpigeonman
30 posts
Dec 28, 2007
4:51 PM
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I like to fly my birds right before dark. I don't get hit by BOP at that time for some reason. Does anyone experience the same thing or is it just down in Fl.
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Snake Doctor
114 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:11 PM
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For the last 3 weeks I have flown almost every day an hour befor dark, except when raining and I have had no trouble from the BOP. I'm in southwest Georgia and the BOP are here in full force, all the Plantation and hunting preserve guys are losing lots of quail to them. I'm new but have learned quickly that if I fly later than 8 AM or earlier than 4 PM the BOPs will make a run at my birds,
SD
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gpigeonman
31 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:15 PM
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yea here in SW FL Ive noticed the same thing. Here it's dark by 5:30 every day so about 4 Pm is my fly time and have not lost one to BOPs yet.
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Skylineloft
707 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:17 PM
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I have never had the balls to.
But I here that it can be done.
IM always afraid of that dreaded overfly.
That is worse then any BOP attack you can have.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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trevsta65
233 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:20 PM
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i was doing that a few weeks ago myself .that was until my resident peregrine woke up to what was going on .didnt lose any birds but i havent done it since.cheers trev
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gpigeonman
32 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:21 PM
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Well I give my birds a 45min fly time and call them back inn and trapped within 5 min
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Joe E
25 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:21 PM
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David Vang in Fresno, ca fley for our fall fly about 4pm and got hit by two falcons and one cooper before 5pm. Joe Ps I think it just depends on your area
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quickspin
212 posts
Dec 28, 2007
5:55 PM
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Here were I'm at you can't fly at any time. If you fly before dark they will not come back in till next day if they get lucky.
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Snake Doctor
115 posts
Dec 28, 2007
6:07 PM
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Early on I was told by Don B. don't fly what you can't afford to lose. I don't think I would take a chance with a kit of Rubys that I hope to raise soon, but I was given 8 young birds with no info on their families and those are the birds I am flying now, OJT so to speak in feed management before I have some birds with really good history. I have wondered about exposing them to Owls by flying late afternoon, they are as bad here as any of the daytime preds. I have bantams an have to be real careful not to let one roost in a tree, he won't be there in the morning. Have any of you lost rollers to Owls? Weather probably has a lot to do with it also, the winds here usually lay down late afternoon.
Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2007 7:14 AM
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quickspin
214 posts
Dec 28, 2007
7:08 PM
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If I fly my bird now I will not fly them for a 2nd time.
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sundance
348 posts
Dec 28, 2007
8:01 PM
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I`ve been flying an hour or two before dark here in Indiana. Done real well so far. That is until this week. Dang BOP figured me out and came in 3 days this last 5 times flying. I did lose 1 bird but didnt see him get it so I`m not sure if he got it or just spooked it off and it got lost. I`m hoping he left hungry every time. Better yet I wont be flying again for a while now. If his survival is depending on eating my birds and my hard work, that sucker is out of luck.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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tapp
524 posts
Dec 28, 2007
8:34 PM
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When I first started flying I flew kits late. I quite that as I had a coppers keep a kit up after dark. Lost some got most back the next day. I have learned not to fly with less than 2 hrs before dark. It's hard watching a kit that won't land stay up till you have to give up and go in the house. And worry all night about them! To much time in them to put them up late and take that one chance. Just when you think it's safe BAM!!!!!
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Tapp
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gabe454
17 posts
Dec 28, 2007
8:42 PM
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WOW THAT BIRD KNOWS WHERE TO EAT.
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quickspin
215 posts
Dec 28, 2007
10:01 PM
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There is no time for the BOP not to eat it's just luck. They eat 1-2 birds a day if they can if they have chicks even more. I first got lucky flying in the morning around 7:00 Am not getting hit at all, then the falcon found out and kept coming in the morning. I flew in the afternoon also and the same thing. This was last year when I was testing the BOP. By doing this I honestly lost most if not completely all my kit birds. The BOP is really smart I think one of the smartest birds. The same falcon one time came in and spook the whole kit making them fly every were and some dot high. He Supposedly left but I was looking at him and he sky high then coming full blast down and got one bird. I said to my self this bird is a smart one and yes she is one. This Falcon has come for the last 3-4 years and I think is the same one. I think she is a hen and is a big one the dark grey one.
This year I took some chances and lost a few but ones it got too bad I lock down. Usually I lost young birds that were spook and didn't come back.
Guys around LA to San Bernardino area know how bad it's over here and can't risk flying the birds making the BOP stay even longer here. The more we feed the BOP the happier he will be and stay even longer than what we want them too.
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wafer kits
57 posts
Dec 28, 2007
10:36 PM
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If you fly from a stationary kit box, the BOP will eventually figure out your schedule and be waiting for your release. Flying from a portable loft gives you a lot more leeway to fly very early or very late. Al
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Electric-man
988 posts
Dec 28, 2007
10:45 PM
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I fly about 4pm when I get to fly,but I am so busy with the youth wrestling right now, I only get to fly a couple evenings a week! Not one BOP in a couple of months!
I do have a snowy owl that sets out there at night though! Have to make sure they all trap in by dark!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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quickspin
217 posts
Dec 28, 2007
10:46 PM
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wafer kits:
How does that work flying from portable lofts? I think it will be a lot harder to train your birds or is it the same? Do you keep them from flying high or it will not matter?
Thanks
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Shadow
2 posts
Dec 29, 2007
12:17 AM
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At the time when we were decimated by the Peregrine we tried all kinds of methods,early morning/late evening/fireworks/and a good deal more desperate measures, they were effective for only a short time,as once they tuned in to your methods,it was not a deterrent to them ,the only respite we have had since 1983 is the nesting of a pair of Eagle Owls in our area for approx the last three years,since learning of them and their capabilities I have restarted in Rollers,along with three other former flyers,I now fly my rollers whenever it suits me,and in eighteen months of flying they have encountered one Peregrine attack with no loss,there is a strong ongoing debate as to the Eagle Owls residency raging on this side,but as a roller and racing fancier I can assure you no predator was ever as welcome on this Island as these Eagle Owls,and long may it continue.
Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2007 12:19 AM
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gotspin7
1015 posts
Dec 29, 2007
6:09 AM
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I did it in the past and lost the kit!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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Snake Doctor
117 posts
Dec 29, 2007
7:25 AM
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I had a first time experience this morning, my son and I ran the pups and chased the quail birds before the rain started. We had been back and forth to the truck to switch the dogs out, as we were coming out to head home, Cole asked "What's that on the truck cab?" It was a Cooper, sitting on the cab, eating a quail, the dogs in the box were going nuts, but that didn't bother him at all. We were hunting with a DNR Officer so the "Lord couldn't call the sucker home!" I walked with in easy ball bat range of him before he flew off. That is bold my brothers!
Makes a preacher want to cuss!
SD
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Velo99
1482 posts
Dec 29, 2007
9:23 AM
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Shine a floodlight on your kitbox if they fly after dark. Mine come down in the dark frequently. Worst I had happen is an occasional bump. I fly late because the days are so short and I get home late frequently. Even a halogen on an extension cord will do the trick. Ya don`t need anything elaborate.
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V99
Keep the best. Eat the rest.
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CSRA
1015 posts
Dec 29, 2007
9:25 AM
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Maybe in fl. i would get killed
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wafer kits
58 posts
Dec 29, 2007
12:21 PM
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Quickspin.....The training is not different than flying from your home except that you have your birds used to your truck intead of house. If they do get attacked they will go higher just like at home. YOU WILL NOT LOSE THEM as long as the weather is not turbulent (ie) heavy winds, snow blizzards etc. This is what most fanciers are afraid of. Come back the next day if you have to and they will still be there looking for the truck. I have done it hundreds of times over the years and sewldom lose a bird. Al
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Snake Doctor
119 posts
Dec 29, 2007
3:01 PM
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Wafer Kit, will you send me an email, I want to know more about flying moble.
SD
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