big grizz prc1
2 posts
Dec 29, 2007
8:37 PM
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whats up donny, how do you determine your click pairs.
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Flipmode
14 posts
Dec 29, 2007
10:11 PM
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Hey BIG GRIZ PRC1,
In my yard to be considered a click pair. The pair goes 5 rounds. 8 out of the 10 young needs to make me smile ear to ear. The other 2 usually become rolldowns, which still made me smile before they crashed and burned. So I beleive 8 out 10 is good for the title of "CLICK". And welcome to the site.
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big grizz prc1
6 posts
Dec 29, 2007
10:28 PM
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great response flipmode,i can agree with your
prospective and the percentage you spoke of,
for my self i am trying to understand how a person
can only breed a few times from all their pairs and
call all of them click pairs, if thats the case then
they should be unstoppable at WC and FALLFLY not to
mention club competition.
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Velo99
1485 posts
Dec 30, 2007
7:22 AM
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Griz,
As your program progresses you percentages will go up. When you are starting out pick the birds that produce rollers. Some will produce stiffs or rd`s or a number of undesirable characteristics. Next season you breed the ones that produced rollers. Pick the ones that produced the highest number of good rollers vs marginal or average. Once you get all of the pairs producing rollers you can tweak your program to breed the ones that are a step above the rest, or have a better kit chemistry.This is where you have to decide what you are going to breed for in your family, because at this point it is now your family with your management skills on display.
The usual progression now is for you to breed the daughters and grand daughters back to the foundation cockbird. Which is the one main cockbird you ended up with at the end of several years of breeding.You also breed sons and grandsons back to the hen. Now you have two pairs of the original line with a large portion of the same genes. This is desirable to the point of condensing the best genes into each bird. Which in turn should produce a higher percentage of quality rollers.
You are adding layers to your program like those on a cake. Each season you put another layer on it. You will eventually start looking for the little things like fly patterns and kit position with in the kit when you are breeding.
Good Luck amigo.
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V99
Keep the best. Eat the rest.
Last Edited by on Dec 30, 2007 7:27 AM
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Electric-man
994 posts
Dec 30, 2007
7:37 AM
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Good post, Kenny! Breaks it down to the basics, Thanks!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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CSRA
1025 posts
Dec 30, 2007
7:57 AM
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I agree with flipmode i like all 10 to make me smile
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gotspin7
1028 posts
Dec 30, 2007
3:46 PM
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Good post! The more the better!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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big grizz prc1
8 posts
Dec 30, 2007
6:35 PM
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greeting sal i heard alot about you and your program
i have known him for many years and believe him to have
a great wealth of roller knowlege,i often tell him that
i have recently aquired some of steve's birds from 922
and needless to say i am very happy and looking forward
to my breeding program for 2008.lol
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smoke747
347 posts
Dec 30, 2007
8:36 PM
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BIG GRIZ,
I MEASURE MY BIRDS ON AMOUNT FLOWN IN. IF I FLY 6 BIRDS OUT OF A PAIR, 2 HAVE TO BE VERY GOOD, 2 CAN BE GOOD THE OTHER CAN BE AVERAGE AND 1 COULD BE A CULL (I EXPECT MY CULLS TO ROLL RIGHT)
BUT I'LL BREED A PAIR TWO SEASONS TO MAKE SURE AND FLY THE YOUNG TWO SEASONS.
SMOKE747
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Skylineloft
753 posts
Dec 30, 2007
8:41 PM
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Smoke,
Let me know when your flying again so I can come see your birds and setup.
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Donny James
222 posts
Dec 30, 2007
8:42 PM
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hay big grizz when ever i put a new pair together for the 1 st time and i rase 10 babies out that pair and if i get 8 good ones i know that pair is a clicking pair and i will use that pair from now on to get young birds out of..............donny james
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smoke747
348 posts
Dec 30, 2007
8:47 PM
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IF I RAISE 10 YOUNG ,I'LL MAYBE GET TO SEE 6 FLY IN, IF I AM LUCKY. THATS WHY I GO ON HOW MANY FLOWN IN.
SKYLINE, I WONT BE FLYING INTIL LATE MARCH. YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME THEN
SMOKE747
Last Edited by on Dec 30, 2007 8:49 PM
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