rollernutz
38 posts
Jan 01, 2008
7:54 PM
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LIST,
KINDA NEW TO ROLLER GAME,BEEN OUT FOR A WHILE!ON A PAST POST THE TOPIC WAS UNFLOWN BIRDS AND WOULD YOU STOCK THEM STR8 FROM THE NEST, WHEN THEY COME OF AGE? MANY OF YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOT, THEY HAVE TO PROVE THEMSELVES. HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD NOT FLY SQUEAKERS YOU BOUGHT FROM A BREEDER FOR FEAR OF LOST 2 THE BOP AND STOCK THEM WHEN COME OF AGE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVENT "REALLY" PROVEN THEMSELVES,WOULD U OR HAVE U DONE THIS B4, WHY OR WHY NOT? JUST CURIOUS IN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.
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Electric-man
1017 posts
Jan 01, 2008
8:00 PM
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I don't fly anything that I pay for! Most everything that hatches gets flown! Only exception was a pr of 10yr old pr of Higgins I aquired! Kept the first 6 youngsters hoping to start a family!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Skylineloft
798 posts
Jan 01, 2008
8:05 PM
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If you do not have the goods in your loft to replace it, DON'T FLY IT. Breed out of the bird and if it works for you as a breeder, keep it. If it does not, move on from the bird quickly. There are many good birds out there, if they do not produce, stop trying to get the golden egg out off the ugly duckling............lol
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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smoke747
388 posts
Jan 02, 2008
12:20 AM
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I STARTED THAT POST(UNFLOWN BIRDS). I STOCK BIRDS FROM THE NEST FROM MY OWN LOFT,BUT WHEN I AQUIRE A BIRD FROM SOMEONE ELSE I AM NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT IT MIGHT DO IN THE AIR JUST WHAT KIND OF BIRDS IT CAN PRODUCE TO BE PUT IN THE AIR.
I ALWAYS SAY, ONCE A BIRD BECOMES A STOCK BIRD IT'S PERFORMANCE BECOMES IRRELEVENT, BECAUSE IF IT CAN'T REPRODUCE ITSELF OR BETTER IT'S PERFORMANCE DOES NOT MATTER. IF ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS PUT PERFORMER TO PERFORMER WE WOULD HAVE GOD BIRDS(SPINNERS). THAT IS NOT THE CASE
SMOKE747
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gotspin7
1064 posts
Jan 02, 2008
5:24 AM
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I agree with these guys!
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Sal Ortiz
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Windjammer Loft
104 posts
Jan 02, 2008
11:46 AM
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Hey Keith,
Help me understand??? On unflown aquired birds...how does one know what the Air Performance of a certain bird is,if not flown. When that certain bird is stocked,what are the youngsters compaired too?? To determine HOW good they are?
Or did I miss something along the way?
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Jan 02, 2008 11:47 AM
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smoke747
392 posts
Jan 02, 2008
12:09 PM
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JAMMER, THEY ARE COMPARED TO THE BIRDS YOU ALREADY BREAD IF ANY. IF YOU ARE A NEW GUY JUST STATING OUT, I WOULD FLY THEM UNLESS THE SELLER INSTRUCTED ME NOT TO. BUT YOU MUST BE DEALING WITH A KNOWN BREEDER/FLYER OF GOOD ROLLERS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A GOOD ROLLER LOOKS LIKE IN THE AIR, YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TO FIND OUT BY SEEING PLENTY OF KITS AND ASKING QUESTIONS. I PERSONALY DON'T FLY BIRDS I AQUIRE BECAUSE I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN THEIR PERFORMANCE IN THE BREDING LOFT. IF I PURCHASED A BIRD AND FLEW IT, THERE IS A 75% CHANCE I WONT BE ABLE TO FLY IT IN ACCORDING TO MY STANDARDS AND THE CONDITIONS(BOPS). IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY FOR ME TO DO SO. FIRST OF ALL IT IS COMMING FROM SOMEONE ELSE. 2ND IT HAS TO KIT PERFECT,SPIN PROPPER, BE ABLE TO LAST AT LEAST 2 SEASONS MAINTAINING THE SAME QUALITY OF PERFORMANCE OR BETTER. AT MY HOUSE 2 SEASONS EQUAL ABOUT 1 YR OF ACTUAL FLY TIME. I RATHER STOCK, BREED, FLY THE YOUNG AND GO FROM THERE. I WOULD WATCH THE SIBLINGS OF THE BIRD/S IN QUESTION AND THE PARENTS BREEDING RECORDS TO SEE IF I WANTED TO TRY THE YOUNG.
MAKE SURE THE BIRDS AND THEIR PARENTS HAVE GOOD TYPE,EXPRESSION, AND TEMPERAMENT AFTER YOU HAVE WITNESSED THE PERFORMANCE.
HOPE THIS CLARIFIES THINGS AND NOT CONFUSSED YOU MORE.
SMOKE747
Last Edited by on Jan 02, 2008 12:43 PM
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Windjammer Loft
111 posts
Jan 02, 2008
4:43 PM
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Keith.........I was thinking on those almost same lines as you stated.I just needed to make sure I was on the right page thou. Thanks for the reasurance.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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maxspin
150 posts
Jan 02, 2008
5:43 PM
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rollernutz,
It depends on the value you place on the birds.
Did they cost you a lot of money?
Could you replace them if they were lost?
Do you have established stock birds to breed from?
I agree with Val. As a rule, I do not fly birds that I paid for.
Keith
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