black_hawk_down
77 posts
Jan 06, 2008
12:47 PM
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i have a two month yb rolldown at a extremely deep depth (around 1-2 telephone poles??). how deep would a telephone pole be? 80 ft? it just came into the roll. i am currently resting it. is it too early for it to be culled or would you guys keep on flying it? it's nestmate seems to be doing fine coming into the roll.-joe
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ezeedad
231 posts
Jan 06, 2008
12:50 PM
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It's a cull...
Gomez
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black_hawk_down
78 posts
Jan 06, 2008
12:51 PM
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oh would you guys also cull it's nestmate and change the pairing it came from???-joe
Last Edited by on Jan 06, 2008 1:01 PM
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ROLLERMAN
206 posts
Jan 06, 2008
12:56 PM
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Cull rolldown and keep flying the nest mate and see how it work out .. My moneys on the rolldown will not make it to 3 months old anyway
al
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roll-n-4-ever
61 posts
Jan 06, 2008
1:26 PM
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I HAVE A PAIR THAT GIVES ME THESSE 300' RES. RED SQUEAKERS.. YES THATS RIGHT 300 FEET WHEN SQUEAKING... ONLY THE RES. REDS DO THIS. IF THE SAME PAIR THROUGH CHECKS THEY LAST AND DO GREAT.....NOW I CULL ALL RES. REDS IN THE NEST...... MY PROBLEM IS THE HEN IS TOO HOT......
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2008 4:06 PM
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spanky
247 posts
Jan 06, 2008
3:07 PM
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BREAK UP THE PAIR.
SPANKY
SGVS
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Electric-man
1022 posts
Jan 06, 2008
5:11 PM
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The average electric poles around here (Oklahoma) that we set are 35 to 45 ft tall! But 5 to 6 ft go in the ground! Above ground hight is usually 30 to 40 ft!
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Val
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JMUrbon
322 posts
Jan 06, 2008
7:03 PM
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you can do with it what you want, You raisd it but chances are if you put it back in the air it wont make it another month. That being said I wouldnt condem the pair for one roll down. I have always believed that if you dont get an occasional rolldown then you dont have enough roll in your birds. Now if you continue to get roll downs then split the pair up but dont blame it on just the cock or just the hen until you prove that they throw rolldowns on other birds. Sometimes getting birds to produce roll is half the battle. Try to harness it provided it isnt going to be a loosing batte ( if you know what I mean ). Joe Urbon
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Last Edited by on Jan 06, 2008 7:28 PM
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Skylineloft
861 posts
Jan 06, 2008
9:34 PM
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J.M.Urbon Lofts is right.
Its not natural for a bird to spin so you always want to breed towards the roll.
This is a good problem to have in your family of birds. This bird I bet just came in to early and the physical just could not keep up with the mental part of the bird. Rest the bird and it might do well after some time off and having a chance to put some weight on. Make sure this bird gets fed well. Sometimes, thats the only problem with the bird. It could be worse. You could be asking why the bird has not started spinning after one year in the air.......lol
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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gotspin7
1135 posts
Jan 07, 2008
5:13 AM
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It does not matter who they came from we all make culls!...Smile! I would keep breeding the pair unless they produce more lawn darts!
P.S cull it!
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Sal Ortiz
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2008 5:14 AM
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ezeedad
238 posts
Jan 07, 2008
6:35 AM
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Sorry,
I shouldn't have been so short... Just because that bird is a cull, it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with either of the parents.. Genetics is kind of like rolling dice...or poker. One of the first matings I ever made produced a bird that killed itself the first time it rolled, and another that I consider to be close to a champion which I flew for over 10 years.
Gomez
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CSRA
1100 posts
Jan 07, 2008
9:46 AM
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Cull lol
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bigbull
22 posts
Jan 07, 2008
11:30 AM
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black hawk down
that's A tight name..SMILE
man some times this happends in breeding good pairs so we think? the squeakers that come in to a roll early in like 60 day's most of the time they won't last to be a good kit bird or breeder.
one things for sure BHD you got roll my man.. so measure your creations.feeding them more to balance there roll when these birds have a mixture of blood strains that you created or have purchased down the line at one time.BHD that pair
only throw out ress reds that's rolldowns shoud be cull/fosters and the blue series (blue checker/blue bars) don't reck and have better contral.
sounds like keeping the (blue series) is the heat control you know what i mean bro .. time and patients.... don't cull the reds try fostering them first.good luck BLACK HAWK DOWN...
big bull
south los angeles flying solo
Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2008 11:39 AM
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Ballrollers
1016 posts
Jan 07, 2008
11:58 AM
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I have a pair of black selfs that I put together on a whim late last summer. I raised six yougsters from them. The first two were rolldowns.....and I was thinking, just as you guys are; separate the parents. Then in the second round, one is stiff and the other is very fast 25-30 footer....if it remains stable. The third round is just being trained. I guess they'll tell the tale. I usually don't keep these hot pairs together, but if they throw 25% to 50% good birds, would you accept the high number of rolldowns until the others are flown out for two years to determine their stability?
Cliff
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0016
36 posts
Jan 07, 2008
11:59 AM
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Roll n 4 ever I have a quick question? the pair that produces the 300 footers, is that pair crossed or both birds out of the same family.
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Flipmode
32 posts
Jan 07, 2008
2:57 PM
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Hey Black Hawk Down feed him up, rest him up and give him another shot! Cull him if he shows no improvement. Breed that pair 4 more rounds before you separate them. Where there's SMOKE there's FIRE! The next babies might be champions!
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