rollerman132
200 posts
Jan 10, 2008
11:46 PM
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Is the grass always greener on the other side, when it comes to someone else’s family of birds? What makes someone constantly change families? Or constantly buy birds to bring back to their loft?
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luis
499 posts
Jan 11, 2008
12:03 AM
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i think it mostly has to do with impatience and the innability to manage your birds wich in turn makes these folks turn to other birds with the idea that they will accomplish their goals.
Bottom line be patient.Learn your birds and be wise when pairing.
If we pay attention everyday we become wiser and in return more able in all aspects of life.Not just in raising rollers!
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 12:03 AM
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CSRA
1116 posts
Jan 11, 2008
12:16 AM
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Very good question that answer is with the person who is doing the changes
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
935 posts
Jan 11, 2008
2:44 AM
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I agree with luis....................
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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gotspin7
1176 posts
Jan 11, 2008
4:56 AM
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Good post Luis!
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Sal Ortiz
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3757
457 posts
Jan 11, 2008
5:23 AM
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I think Steve hit the nail on the head. No one knows the answer to this but the individual.
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
369 posts
Jan 11, 2008
6:51 AM
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The question is what the hobbist choose's and respect there decision.There is levels of quality of rollers, they are not all the same. Some buy and change frequently of families of birds just to try and run in the shadow of the fame , but it is us who have to do the breeding, to show the talent of our breeding of what ever we chose. Some buy families because of there past history and believe it's the best.(false)
It is all about the birds !!!!!!
Luis I agree with you !!!
R-LUNA
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 6:53 AM
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3757
460 posts
Jan 11, 2008
8:28 AM
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Bill Pensom would send for rollers from others of repute just to see what the other guy was doing. He did this a lot. You never know why someone is doing something unless you ask. There was a fellow that I knew in the CRS that had birds for 35 years and they hardly performed. I thought he was nuts but he loved them. You really never know. Just ask the guy. There is a fellow that Richard Luna and I know very well and he changed families a few times. When Richard found out the true story he was shocked! The guy had his birds stolen and he did not tell anyone what really happened. Richard, I think you remember this one.
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 8:29 AM
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Windjammer Loft
137 posts
Jan 11, 2008
10:27 AM
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132.....I think that if a man doesn't have a clear picture of what he is looking for in birds,this might make him make frequent changes or additions. Their are probably many unknows here to deal with first of all. I do know from personel experience I got to see fanciers birds in my area,but they all flew basically the same. So,I NEVER really saw any very DEEP spinners. As time went on I got to see and read about the birds from around the country. I could REALLY see the difference in the families. And also see what different types of preformance birds were available to choose from.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 10:30 AM
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smoke747
492 posts
Jan 11, 2008
12:15 PM
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Sal you are crazy
smoke747
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rollerman132
201 posts
Jan 11, 2008
1:40 PM
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R-LUNA, I understand that its their choice and do respect their decision. I know a person just like the one I mentioned, the guy would start over again with a new family every two years. I never asked why because I didn’t want to heart his feelings. It might just be what Luis and Paul posted, never gave it much thought, good post Luis and Paul.
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W@yne
920 posts
Jan 11, 2008
3:08 PM
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The grass is lush green over here in the UK Lol.
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 3:18 PM
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J T
129 posts
Jan 11, 2008
3:11 PM
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Most of the time, the green grass is full of weeds.
JT
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John
157 posts
Jan 11, 2008
3:40 PM
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Guys,
The grass my not be greener but if it helps that person improve then so be it. I thought the whole idea of this sport/hobby was to improve because if you don't improve or at least try you become stagnet. There are some guys in this thread that fly some hell of birds on a regular basis but they are always looking to improve and make things better.I'm sure if they saw something that they really liked or some thing that they thouhgt they could use they wouldn't have a problem getting it. I don't see changing birds every two years because you don't give yourself the time to learn the birds.Then on the other hand none of us knows how much time we have left in our hour glass.Personally I'm trying to reach my goals in the shortest time possible because I my not have 5,10 or 15 years to try and get there.
I think my biggest question is why do others worried about what goes on in anothers mans yard? I look at this this hobby /sport just as I do my job. There are some old timers that are great and then there are some youngsters that come in eager to learn and do very well. Just because a person has 10,20,30 or 40 years doesn't mean that they really know everything or that they are really good at what they do.
John
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 4:08 PM
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Velo99
1521 posts
Jan 11, 2008
7:14 PM
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Management styles and families are a mix and match deal. Some families require a lot of tweaking and some don`t. Some guys have the time to devote to these families and usually get a good payout.
Some guys are lucky to have time to let a kit out during the week and fly the crap out of thier birds on the weekend.
Different families react differently to all types of tings and climates. Personally I think if you work a line for 4-5 years and cant improve on your stock of birds,it is time to look for another family.
On the other hand, one should have an idea what he is looking for, if he doesn`t know he has to get a lot of lines and work thru them. There are reasons not all of them valid except for inexperience.
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V99
Keep the best. Eat the rest.
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
371 posts
Jan 11, 2008
8:48 PM
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Rollerman dont get me wrong I'm sure you respect other peoples decisions and people. Your post is an excellent post and question.
Velo99 a great post also...
R-LUNA
Last Edited by on Jan 11, 2008 8:58 PM
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rollerman132
202 posts
Jan 11, 2008
9:32 PM
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No affiance taken R-Luna, You’re right, it’s his birds and he can do what he wants with them, it’s just sad to see someone go to extremes.
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luis
505 posts
Jan 11, 2008
11:36 PM
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Guys don't get me wrong!I understand sometimes you have to change things when they're not working out and i respect that,but i think we are talking about those guys that change birds more than they change their underwear !! LOL !!
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3757
464 posts
Jan 12, 2008
4:53 AM
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Luis - It is alost like asking a lady or a man why did they get married 10 times? Only they know why.
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gotspin7
1180 posts
Jan 12, 2008
4:56 AM
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3757, LOL! It is true! Really who cares!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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3757
466 posts
Jan 12, 2008
5:13 AM
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Sal you are right!
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
373 posts
Jan 12, 2008
6:25 AM
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Luis ,,,,,I understand what you are talking about,It would be nice if those persons would show some dedication to those birds first,,, breeding and flying them instead of buying others birds and changing them shortly, whenin some circumstances they had better or even equvilent to what they have had,or the next batch they buy or get.I JUST DONT GET IT EITHER!!!LOL
Yes I know that it is their bussiness and money .I'll guess that that's what keeps them happy or they need that next andrenalin rush. They should really do some research and study on familiy lines or the breeders they are interested in first.
R-LUNA
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luis
510 posts
Jan 12, 2008
10:07 AM
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LaRon and Sal:
From my perspective if these constant changes come from lack of knowledge than it is up to the wiser men to show them the correct route.Also there are those who don't listen to advice and only they will suffer the consequences!
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3757
474 posts
Jan 12, 2008
10:23 AM
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Luis - This may be the case in this instance but there are some many variables that a person really does not know unless the speak with the individual. I here people all of the time talk about so and so changed families etc never asking the individual. However, I agree with you in your case.
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rollerman132
203 posts
Jan 12, 2008
11:59 AM
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I have to agree with R-Luna, what can a person learn about someone’s family in just two sessions. There had to be something he liked about the birds, it cant just be the fame behind the name? What makes it mind-boggling to me is these families were from fanciers that placed in the top ten in the fall fly or world cup.Dedication and patient are the key words here, just my opinion.
Last Edited by on Jan 12, 2008 12:10 PM
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