broadwaystar
28 posts
Jan 16, 2008
4:57 PM
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ive been in this hobby a long time and one thing i notice is most coversations revolve around the people who have won something ,as in worldcup,fallfly,local club flys ect,these are the ones who recive all the credit for there acomplishments and i belive they should becuse it's a great thing to compete and come out on top ,but i think we fail to realize there are some great people that never win but go out of there way to keep this thing going in the right direction, who do you think has made the greatest contribution thats never talked about?
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gotspin7
1226 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:03 PM
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For me when I was young it was Victorio Gutierrez from South Gate Ca., he used to give us birds, and kept out of the streets!
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Sal Ortiz
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smoke747
546 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:10 PM
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I give credit to San Gutierrez also, along with Glen Eason, Bruce Hall, Eddie Avilla, Antonio Mitchel, James McDowell. These are some of the guys that are always helping a kid or the next man that never get credit.
smoke747
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broadwaystar
29 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:39 PM
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for me it would have to be craig wiggs for all the work he does for the kids and his willingness and comitment when ever he's asked to do something.
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smoke747
556 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:41 PM
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Good call broadwayster.(Craig Wiggs)
smoke747
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broadwaystar
30 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:47 PM
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think about it he's been doing what he doe's with the kids for almost 10 years not only that but i dont even know how many flys this guy has judged in his life probly to many to count thats what this hobby should be about people helping people!!!!!!!!
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PR_rollers
346 posts
Jan 16, 2008
5:59 PM
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I give credit to all you people that keep the Birmingham Roller pure..my hats to all...
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Ralph....
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parlorfancier916
467 posts
Jan 16, 2008
6:04 PM
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I would not give credit to everyone who breeds birmingham rollers because there are a lot of feather merchants out there, umm the credit should go to those who either dedicate themselves to the competition(because they preserve the hobby in some sort of weird way) and those who recruit and help out starters of all ages(to keep freshblood kept coming in)
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Nrhoua (Doua) Xiong
4581 25th ave. sacramento C.A. 95820
http://freewebs.com/parlorrollers
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1012 posts
Jan 16, 2008
6:06 PM
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Bill roy................... Jim sherwood...........
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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pat66
97 posts
Jan 17, 2008
4:21 AM
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--I give crediy to LaRon A.K.A. 3757 He is very generous and gives you his best and is always there to help with my questions and point me in the right direction---THANKS LaRon--------
Pat
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Drama Side
74 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:42 AM
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First of all I like to give credit to god for letting me see another year to enjoy my birds. Thats a blessing by itself growing up in Watts.
I like to give credit to CS for all the birds he use to give me and my cousin when we were kids. Showed me how to seperate my breeders and kit birds. When I was a kid he tooked me to my first fly and show.
Last but not least I like to give credit to Keith London. Since I been in ICRC Keith been schooling me on alot of little things. I would like to thank him for that. He suppose to take me under his wing. You must of forgot Keith LOL!!!!
I like to give credit to all the great roller people out there and all my club members (ICRC). Great topic broadwaystar
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JMUrbon
326 posts
Jan 17, 2008
8:56 AM
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If I had to step up and give credit to one man in this hobby that put the hobby and the preservation of the hobby obove anything else it would have to be Rex Clark. Rex passed away a few years ago but Prior to his passing he never mised a WC or a FF or a local fly, Rex was always the one helping put on the club and national events and always the last one there cleaning them up. He was always the one picking up and dropping off the kids and starting them off with birds to fly and even giving them bands and medications when needed. He is the most prominant founding member of the NCRC and I feel even though the club goes on without him it will never be the same without him. Generosity was his middle name. Joe Urbon
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 11:45 AM
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washington86
146 posts
Jan 17, 2008
9:39 AM
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I'll give credit to my pal Kevin Vue, for helping me get into rollers. I used to raise my birds at his house, and it was awesome. I would just walk with him home after school and let our birds fly.
And Brain Mccromick, Dwight, Johonny Smith, and Ryvon Hall for helping me start my very own family.
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elopez
380 posts
Jan 17, 2008
9:50 AM
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Credit to Keith London, he's help us out since we were kids and is answering our calls daily to talk rollers.
Drama, I was under Keith's wing for a min. but he doesn't deodorize so had to leave...lol
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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Drama Side
75 posts
Jan 17, 2008
12:19 PM
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You crazy Efren LOL!!!!
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Oldfart
412 posts
Jan 17, 2008
5:17 PM
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Hey all, I'm sure most will not know of this man, he was reserved, quiet, unassuming. Never turned a youngster away, always willing to sit and talk rollers. Flew some great kits. Started many a boy on the right path, gave birds to those who first earned them. Sometimes even found jobs for those who could not afford feed for their own. Never a hand out, but thinking back, probably made up chores, so they,
(I) would not feel like I was begging. Sometimes a boy will get lucky, I did. His name, William Berry, Bill.
Thom
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George R.
50 posts
Jan 17, 2008
5:28 PM
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I give credit to KEN BILLINGS for keeping it REAL !!!
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ICEMAN710
90 posts
Jan 18, 2008
4:01 AM
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two people that come to mind for myself (besides my father) would be Steve Moore who I believe currently lives in north dakota(?). He was with the San Diego Spinners when he lived in chula vista. The other person would be Juan Navarro without a doubt. He is a major asset to the roller hobby and a generous rollerman.
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Gary
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city-side-lofts
128 posts
Jan 18, 2008
7:32 PM
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I would have to say Kenny Billings is one of those people who goes out of there way to help others in this sport even though he does do good in the flys he has helped me out so much if he never helped me I dont know if I would even have more than a 4 bird kit and I would still have the color bred rollers I bought from a guy for $5 so if he never helped me out I dont think I would even be on this chat talking to every one on here so THANK YOU Kenny Blillings you are Duh Man
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The man in black
city-side-lofts.piczo.com
Ben the bird man of Idaho
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Snake Doctor
150 posts
Jan 18, 2008
9:01 PM
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I haven't been at this long, less than a year, Sam Pate who had the first rollers I ever saw, got bit by the Roller Bug,
Nick Siders, who was gracious enough to fly his birds for me, Prof. Doucet, Thom, Val, Tony and Joni, Don Bowen the list could go on and on.
Thanks to All Y'all for your encouragment and willing spirit to help a newbie get started right and stay pointed in the right direction, and for answering my unending questions!
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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3757
508 posts
Jan 18, 2008
11:34 PM
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Pat and Snake - Thanks!
For me there are many individuals that I could give some credit to as with all fanciers but first my dad and Bill Yurga and second Bruce Cooper, Bill Patrick and Herb Sparkes. They are all genuine, knowledgeable, have values and have taken a lot of time with me through these many years. You can learn something from anyone but not all are genuine in their teaching and this is what is important to me.
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sundance
391 posts
Jan 19, 2008
4:59 AM
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Donny"HOF" James, go donny! really.... probably too many to list and still be fair to all the local guys that have helped out many and deserve thanks.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Santandercol
1797 posts
Jan 19, 2008
5:29 AM
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Up here in Canadalandia,Doug Mitchell gave me my first birds and Al Hunt laid a whole bunch on me all Monty birds.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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mcroller
75 posts
Jan 19, 2008
4:34 PM
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like wise like kel up here in the far north got my first birds from Monty Nieble, after i lost them, John Wiens gave me some,also some from AL Hunt. jimmi
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Alohabirds
56 posts
Jan 19, 2008
8:41 PM
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Being from an island with only three backyard fanciers and no roller club, finding information on flying and breeding these birds correctly was a chore. Thanks to TONY for having this site where anyone without access to veteran flyers can ask a question and get answers from knowlegable fanciers.
Also, thanks to Rick Schoening for moving to this island with his wealth of knowlege and loaning me 3 cockbirds for this breeding season. :)
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Aloha, Dexter
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Missouri-Flyer
1236 posts
Jan 20, 2008
5:13 AM
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This is a great thread..For me, there are 2 guys that I feel do a lot for the sport..First I would like to say a few words about a guy that is above all in my book. His name is V.L "Spike" Gilmore. Mr. Gilmore has been in the roller hobby longer than most of us have been living, and has such a great understanding and knowledge of this breed. When I wanted to restart this hobby, Spike was all ears. I contacted him, and explained my situation. He invited me over to his house, and we talked pigeons for hours. When I left I had 6 pair of birds from his breeder loft in a box headed for home, with the start of a great friendship. No matter when or where I see Spike, he is always very pleasant, and willing to answer any question. I visited him yesterday for 5 hours, and again came away with 4 pair from his breeder loft. His remark to me for why he was giving me birds from his breeder loft was " I want you to do great in the flys, so here are some great birds"... If that isnt a champion, then I have never met one!...
There is another local guy by the name of Bill Roy that has helped many people in the hobby out with excellent birds. Bill is one of those guys that doesnt always have alot to say, but when he talks, it is always useful information. Bill was another guy that helped me out when I got back into birds, and has continued to help, whether it be giving me quality birds, or sharing his vast knowledge of information. I have been to both of these gentlemens house many times, and will tell everyone who reads this post that there are no 2 better people in this hobby!...
Bill and Spike, I just want to say Thank You for being the people that you are!..Your friend, Jerry Ledford
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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Double R
224 posts
Jan 20, 2008
6:38 AM
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Amen Jerry,
Spike and Bill are tops in my book! The last time I was at Spike's house I was admiring a hand made wooden carrying cage, he had made for Ronnie Dyal and mentioned that I would like one. I didn't get to make it to the club meeting this month but got a call from Joe to let me know that Spike had sent one home with him for me. When I called to thank him and see what I owed for it he wouldn't take any money he just said it was for me sending out e-mails for the club.
The Guys I would have to give credit for getting me into rollers would have to be Don Oakie, Ray Sanchez and Ken Billings. Don invited me over to his house to watch his birds fly and sent me home with a box full of young birds of my own. After getting hooked on rollers I met Ray Sanchez and received my first stock birds from him. Last but not least I have gotten to know Ken Billings thru Ray and aquired some stock birds from him also. Everyone I have met in the roller fancy has turned out to be good people willing to help out a beginner. THANKS GUYS
Robby
Last Edited by on Jan 20, 2008 12:23 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1043 posts
Jan 20, 2008
8:00 AM
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Excellent post Jerry I hope i get to meet both Bill Roy and Spike Gilmore one of these days........
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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oneg360
6 posts
Apr 27, 2008
10:35 PM
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I want to give credit to Smoke 747 aka (Keith London) He allows me to sit in his yard almots every day and ask him all the roller qusetions I can think up and he always gives me EXCELLENT ADVICE......Thanks
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elopez
1162 posts
Apr 27, 2008
11:07 PM
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Oneg,
What's your name? I'm at Keith's quite a bit so I've must have met you.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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smoke747
914 posts
Apr 28, 2008
12:12 AM
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Efren, you know Mario.
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
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elopez
1173 posts
Apr 28, 2008
8:46 AM
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I see Mario ain't playing around now. I can see now why he got 821, because I thought you were going to keep him.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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silver tail
228 posts
Apr 28, 2008
9:29 AM
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I personaly owe a lot of guys a great deal of thanks for helping me out then and still now. but I'll start with my Uncle Willie Wright (HDRC). Heres a name in LA every one know's but since there are so many new guys they never had the privilege to meat or see the great teams of birds this man flew and I speck of the one and only Kevin McCray I personaly think he played a big roll in the South central part of La to help a lot of our great fliers know step it up to the levels there on know. This is not in any way a put down for anyone just my way of saying thanks to a great pigeon man that we now no longer have around on fly day. PS and no he's not dead just doesn't have rollers anymore. Brodway great subject.
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silver tail
231 posts
Apr 28, 2008
9:43 AM
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Smoke I think he will always be one of LA all time greats when it comes to flying but you know your at the top of that list year after year proving your the one to beat thats what flying birds is about not the one year wonders of today get one hit song on the radio and years later you hear it and go I wonder what happened to him. La is my home turf (COMPTON) and I believe the capital of roll we have more guys rasing birds then anywhere in the world crazy. Like DJ Quik said how can a small city like this have such a big influence on the world. thats were we should be. lol.
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silver tail
233 posts
Apr 28, 2008
9:48 AM
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You know I heard about it he called as soon as he was done I need to talk with you also when you get a min.
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wishiwon2
53 posts
Apr 28, 2008
11:35 AM
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Giving creditto those whohave helped promote and move forward the roller hobby who may not have won major competition flies...
I think we should acknowledge Doc Reiman and Brent Martindale for creating and implementing the 1-2-3 scoring system inplace for WC fly and FF. They didnt generate or write the rules governing the current flies but they did create the scoring system and persuaded organization leadership to use it. Brent has also done a service for the NBRC for many years, served as regional director and rarely misses a convention. He's been at it near 20 yrs serving as a leader, donating time, $ and ideas. Doc as well.
Also acknowledge Tom Monson of Utah for his historical contributions. Tom has a wealth of knowledge about pigeons and especially rollers, he is willing to share. He does it without sounding condescending or arrogant through quality writings in magazines and periodicals. He has spent most of his life serving the roller hobby.
Rick Schoening has done much to share knowledge with us here in US, through his video visits with roller greats. Rick has also been involved as leader here and has helped out numerous folks with birds and advice.
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