parlorfancier916
468 posts
Jan 16, 2008
6:13 PM
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Competitional flies have sort of preserved the roller hobby but to what extent? Everybody is so busy on their program they have forgotten the enjoyment they used to get when barely getting into rollers. The competition has even frustrated a few breeders to the point where they would quit. So you guys give me some ideas, how would we improve the chances of a newbie staying and still compete at the same time? we should focus more on helping out the newbies to get them going and not having a chance of quiting, how do we do this?
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Nrhoua (Doua) Xiong
4581 25th ave. sacramento C.A. 95820
http://freewebs.com/parlorrollers
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gotspin7
1249 posts
Jan 16, 2008
6:19 PM
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Doua, I just use competition as a way to meet people and have fun and if I win well that is icing on the cake!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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Skylineloft
963 posts
Jan 16, 2008
7:54 PM
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Doua,
Enjoy the birds. Nobody said you have to compete. If you have the time to compete, do it if you want to. Just remember, enjoy it. The day it becomes a chore, you will get bored and possibly get out of birds like many do. This is America, when it comes to your hobby and your pets, enjoy it the way you want to!!!!!!!!!!
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Ray
Breeding Quality Spinners,
"One Roller At A Time".
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Donny James
264 posts
Jan 16, 2008
8:09 PM
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hay doua i have to agree with sal and ray they said some good points................donny james
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kcfirl
255 posts
Jan 16, 2008
8:26 PM
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Doua,
I do everything I can to help newbies. I have given birds, come watched their birds, given old kitboxes, offered toi answer any question, offered to pay entrance fees, put on shows, the list goes on. Many other experienced guys on this list have done the same. I don't know what else to do.
I can tell you this, only about 10% of the guys that I give birds to still have them and are flying them after 6 mos.
You tell us, what can we do to help newbies? What help do you need to get a kit going and start flying with us?
Sincerely,
Ken Firl
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wafer kits
59 posts
Jan 16, 2008
10:09 PM
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Guys;
In today's world with so many other interests to demand our attention, people can easily be drawn away from the hobby, especially when they realize how quickly they can lose birds and how seldom they can acually win competitions. This is because their whole focus is on "winning" and not enjoying the rollers themselves. Al
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smoke747
562 posts
Jan 16, 2008
10:15 PM
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Great post wafer kits. If all comps stopped tomorrow I would still breed and fly my birds tha same way.
I started a club to help others out.
smoke747
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luis
531 posts
Jan 17, 2008
12:13 AM
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If you truly come to love pigeons,not much can keep you from them!For the most part....i'll reiterate that again...For the most part this hobby grabs the attention of kids who can't afford much of anything.This is what happened in my case.My birds became my Nintendo sort of speak.I loved being around them(still do).They provided an outlet from the problems we sometimes deal with from a very young age.To this day they still provide that outlet!Comp is secondary to the enjoyment of my birds.It's an avenue you can persue for comaraderie,sharing of ideas and not only allowing your birds to shine but also yourself.
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3757
502 posts
Jan 17, 2008
6:20 AM
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Doua - This is a great post. First, do what makes you happy. If you enjoy your rollers in your back yard this does not make you any less of a breeder than anyone else. Remember, Bill Pensom and all of the old timers in the Black Country were backyard breeders. Every club that I have joined had major politics and since I have a hot temper I have a propensity to stay away as much as possible. Also, if you breed wonderful families from your stock that you start of with do not let someone tell you that they made you because your birds may have descended from their stock. Doua just enjoy your birds and stay away from politics, chaotic and unethical individuals.
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 7:28 AM
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Bill C
59 posts
Jan 17, 2008
2:24 PM
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I would say there is no good reason to quit. Competition or attitudes ect. Many new guys quit in the first six months to a year for various resons. They don't have the roller fever as apposed to gold fever. They find out soon that it takes work and dedication to put up a good kit. It takes time and years 5+ to start finding out what you have and how good they produce and you ( the new guy ) are the reason they make it in a fly or not. There has been times I have had lousy kits with out birds and the lowest score of the day and other times when I could fly and pick out the best 20 and have impressed the other guys. I have two boys who are active in sports and I just can't swing it all, all the time.
This is the most complicated of all pigeons to raise and fly and some just don't have what it takes or the patiences, it all goes back to the guy in charge of breeding practices. That is where some quit or because they have a conflict with comp or a judge. Anyone can start another flying group in their area if they want to. Just have fun flies and get togethers with out the serious competitions. There is also the guys who just want rollers and hang out with the comp guys to get birds and when they have the birds they never return. Many of them still have birds but just drop out of the clubs. It is their choice. BIll C
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 2:30 PM
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Spin City USA
12 posts
Jan 17, 2008
4:24 PM
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Clubs, Flys, and sites such as this exist because there are
breeders and flyers. I dont have my birds because of a club
I fly for myself. I didnt even know about this site except some flyers turned me on to it. I find it a wealth of information and fellowship. If you get into heavy competition it can become very time consuming and additive. I have to balance it out with family and business life. As for helping newbies, I have helped a lot of guys get started
if they dont get pigeon feaver they dont last. I have given birds and sold good birds to new flyers only to have them give up after awhile because its a lot of work and commitment. There have been a few who made me look bad with my own birds, but They know they got good birds from me.
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They gotta Spin to win.....Jay
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 4:35 PM
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PR_rollers
355 posts
Jan 17, 2008
4:48 PM
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It all comes down to what choice you make when you start ,you want to compete ,or be a backyard flyer.but for you to stay in this game for a long time it has to be in your blood,nothing can make you quit ,I for one don't compete,not by choice if I was out there in the states I be competing,but if i didn't like the politics that comes with it and all the hassles,I just stop competing and go back to being a backward flyer.why because its in my blood and no one can ever take it out of me..but the man above..It gives me peace of mind its therapy for me ,and I like a challenge.this bird keep you busy all the time .A to B team ,b team to c team ,c stand for not cut out for the game....cutting feed giving more feed,selecting properly,when to give med or vitamins,when to rest .god this is fun.I love my rollers...
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Ralph....
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SiDLoVE
117 posts
Jan 17, 2008
4:50 PM
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When you like rollers. Theres not a person or thing that should stop you. I had birds since i was 8 years old. i would catch comies at the park ..schools lunch areas... feed stores.. swapmeet.. nothing was gonna stop me from what i enjoyed . am 31 years old now. And learned about comp flying 7 years ago. Now its on!!. The love for birds is eaither with you or it isnt . NO FREE LUNCH TICKETS>>GOD BLESS
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