black_hawk_down
84 posts
Jan 17, 2008
6:47 PM
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Does anyone have Dave Henderson's family of birds? Does anybody know if they have muffs? Can you guys post up some pictures?-joe
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 6:47 PM
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PR_rollers
358 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:01 PM
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Dave Henderson all 2007 birds ..no muff here thou,
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Ralph....
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black_hawk_down
85 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:03 PM
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i have a muffed blue bar henderson...is that possible? do joe urbon/henderson birds have muffs? i will post up a picture of it when i get a chance.-joe
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 7:06 PM
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PR_rollers
359 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:05 PM
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Henderson birds 2007 ,,except that black grizzle in middle ,Jac and Pensom..
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 7:05 PM
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JMUrbon
332 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:08 PM
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You wont find any muffs at my house. I have seen groused legs at Daves but no muffs.
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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PR_rollers
360 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:10 PM
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I don't know if Joe birds have muff you have to ask him..i have a few of his Dave send me,,no muff on them neither.
that Lavender I think is #38 coming out nice rolling real 10 ft fast.
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Ralph....
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black_hawk_down
86 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:22 PM
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opps my badd...wrong word...it doesnt have a big old muff...lol sorry...i meant groused legs...-joe
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black_hawk_down
87 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:25 PM
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Ralph nice birds! how are they coming along?-joe
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PR_rollers
362 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:38 PM
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they coming along good ,starting to roll now ,I love these birds they are easy to manage,they kit tight,so far I'm happy with them...how many you got of his..i got 29...
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Ralph....
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JMUrbon
333 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:52 PM
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Raph, That black cock in your second photo, surely that bird is out of my stuff. What are the parents of him if you dont mind me asking. Joe Urbon
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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PR_rollers
363 posts
Jan 17, 2008
7:59 PM
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Joe ,sup my man,,that black bird is a 700 series,Dave said those # bands are from him and anything under that you use.he never send me pedigrees ,so I wouldn't be able to help you with that..---------
Ralph....
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JMUrbon
334 posts
Jan 17, 2008
8:01 PM
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I am sure Dave raised it but it is definately off something from me. Its a dam good looking bird with a trademark pearl eye that all of my birds have.
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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PR_rollers
365 posts
Jan 17, 2008
8:37 PM
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lol , Joe I laugh because now that i think of it when i got my last batch ,which I think were yours because the number were 77,,624,,series and 38 any number that were not 700,but the look in those eyes were different.they look at me like who the hell are you ..by the way that #624 a blk check ,looking sweet hole in the middle fast tight .I love that bird first time i set eyes on it...
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 8:40 PM
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JMUrbon
336 posts
Jan 17, 2008
8:44 PM
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77 and 38 I raised and the black Cock is certainly from my 904/35 line.
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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Alohazona
383 posts
Jan 17, 2008
11:12 PM
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Joe,
I probably have 20 to 30 blacks on the property.Henderson/Pasco,I got the breeders from my buddy Danny Galarza...Aloha,Todd
Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2008 11:14 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1023 posts
Jan 18, 2008
4:41 AM
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Nice birds puerto rico..............
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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gotspin7
1259 posts
Jan 18, 2008
4:44 AM
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Nice birs! Puerto Rico!
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Sal Ortiz
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Bill C
60 posts
Jan 18, 2008
8:52 AM
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Dave Henderson could give you the best advice on his birds. But I can tell you a friend of mine had some of Daves birds and he got roll downs all the time and finally after a few years he called Dave and talked to him. Dave asked how are you pairing them, he said he was crossing them with Jaconnettes and Kumeros and something else. Dave told him not to cross them and keep them as a family, the next two years the guy really saw some good velocity rollers and got a few more from Dave, Dave gave them to me and I got them to him.
So I recomend not to cross them or you can lose the blood line Dave worked on for years to accomplish. It is not uncommon to see the same birds pop up in Daves and Joe Urbans pedigrees. They are both a tight inbred family and this is a good example of two guys who can line/inbreed ect. and do it successfully. I could tell you more but, as to your question does anyone have DH birds? Yes, I really like the cock bird I have and has produced one of the best rollers I've raised. BillC
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Built4Speed
60 posts
Jan 18, 2008
4:28 PM
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Bill,
I have Dave's family and I have been working with them for 2 1/2 years now, the funny thing is, is that one of my main pairs are full brother and sister, I didnt realize it until I aqcuired the pedegree's from Russ Dunagan. birds have no faults and are smart 20 to 30 foot range and show the A stlye that Dave talks about on his web site. like I told Joe Urbon I will post some pics as soon as I get a chance.
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Dale
SGVS
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