bigwilly
267 posts
Jan 28, 2008
7:33 AM
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anybody using muffs in their competition kit?
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luis
572 posts
Jan 28, 2008
8:43 AM
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Most of us breed muffs every now and then.Some cull them out of preference,but they roll just as good as any other bird.I have some,small muffs though.Can't say i really care for them,but if they do the job ...they stay!
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pat66
111 posts
Jan 28, 2008
11:07 AM
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I LUV MUFF!!!
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Pat
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bigwilly
272 posts
Jan 28, 2008
11:35 AM
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alot of the people that post pictures of the birds never really post muffs. I was just woundering do anyone use them in their comp kits
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PR_rollers
453 posts
Jan 28, 2008
4:06 PM
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I tell you one thing with the cold out there and all that snow .I would love all my birds with muff helps keep them warm,,lol..
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Ralph....
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bigwilly
280 posts
Jan 28, 2008
5:16 PM
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Guest.. nice bird. How is she in the air?
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1078 posts
Jan 28, 2008
5:18 PM
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I love Muffed.................
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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washington86
221 posts
Jan 28, 2008
5:27 PM
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I like Muffed too, sometime my breeders would get muffed even though they are not muffed, there are great spinner. Feather on their feet doesn't mean anything at all toward their ability to spin.
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CSRA
1267 posts
Jan 28, 2008
5:34 PM
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Thats a nice bird good job
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Alohazona
389 posts
Jan 28, 2008
6:04 PM
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Willy,
I have Rich Hayes line of birds,they have muffs.Look at his competition numbers,very good,very consistant,tough region too.If a great spinner has muffs in my loft,its an added plus.I don't breed for it though,just happens to come from the pairs I breed from....Aloha,Todd
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ezeedad
292 posts
Jan 28, 2008
6:44 PM
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Will,
I flew some big muffs in my competition kits when I was in the CRS and BCRC... In fact the
rollinest bird in my kit was a big muff. She pretty much looked like this one...
She went about 25 feet...fast.. and very frequent. I named her Showtime.
Paul
Last Edited by on Jan 28, 2008 6:45 PM
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Ldogxxx
5 posts
Jan 28, 2008
6:55 PM
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WOW Paul! Your the only guy I know who has muffed rollers with muffs that large! You had stuko lofts with electric wires running in the walls when I met you in 1981. You told me you could always tell your strain by the way they spun. I wanted to get some of those back then but you had none available at that time. Still got that loft(s)? Cedric Bogen was the one who introduced you to me.
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the
illusion of knowledge."
Bayani
EZ Rollers (www.wacadoo.com)
B-Square Lofts
Last Edited by on Jan 28, 2008 7:16 PM
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crystalpalace
285 posts
Jan 28, 2008
9:38 PM
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Paul that heavy muffed roller you posted reminded me of the cross breeds Reggie Stewert bred many years ago in southern California. He crossed his rollers with west of england tumblers to get a deeper spinning west. Some of the crosses were flown in roller competition in L.A. too. There still must be some of that stock bred in Los Angeles today. The old Jack family shell out some profuse long f/f rollers too. My f/f roller family are bred from the original imports along with pedigrees. There are lot of f/f rollers bred from the Jac family in Missouri. Thank you for posting, Ray Sanchez.
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Alohazona
390 posts
Jan 28, 2008
10:02 PM
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Paul,
I'm Lovin' the muffs on your birds,the one you posted is a honey!Mine moult out that big but they don't stay that big.I'm wishin' I would have gotten those birds from you a few years back.....Aloha,Todd
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Alohazona
391 posts
Jan 28, 2008
10:05 PM
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Paul,
Beside the muffs on that bird,the body and the ticked eye are a winner.I look for those to pop up in my strain...Aloha,Todd
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ezeedad
293 posts
Jan 29, 2008
8:45 PM
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Bayani,
You must have seen my muffs roll then. Some guys don't believe that they are pure Birmingham
roller, but I've never crossed outside of the breed. Those first muffs you saw were from
birds of Cornell Norwood, and they were 119 jammed up..
The old stucco cage... I called
it the Third Eye Loft, but some other guys called it the Tijuana jail.. I had chain link and
rebar inbedded in the stucco walls and roof. Bars in the windows too..
Paul
Last Edited by on Jan 29, 2008 8:47 PM
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ezeedad
294 posts
Jan 29, 2008
8:56 PM
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Ray,
Reggie Stewart...!! I got my first roller from Reggie...
I remember Reggie Stewart was flying
commmpetition with other West of England breeders. There are also guys flying pure West of Englands.
I saw some of them that a guy from Utah had... Nice body..just like a roller, but he said that
they still had a way to go in perfecting th roll... But that must have been atleast ten years ago.
Bobby Ruiz was also flying West crosses back in the 80s. They had plenty of roll in them.
He was rolling a lot of them down.
Paul
Last Edited by on Jan 29, 2008 9:04 PM
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ezeedad
295 posts
Jan 29, 2008
9:03 PM
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Hey Todd,
I've seen a lot of good birds with those "speed marks" on them. Maybe there's something to that.
It was hard trying to get the health certificates for shipping those birds to Hawaii... I still
feel kind of bad that it didn't work out...
Take Care my Friend,
Paul
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rollermanx0
269 posts
Jan 29, 2008
10:19 PM
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this is one of the best producing hens i have also!
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rOLLerManx0
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ICEMAN710
101 posts
Jan 30, 2008
12:07 AM
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hey rOLLerManx0 whats the script on that hen. It looks like shes got the goods! Is she Navarro Based? Shes got the type I like, I've got a couple with the same.
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Gary
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ROBERT RODRIGUEZ
44 posts
Feb 16, 2009
11:24 AM
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AM FLYING MUFFS MYSELF GOIN BACK TO JOHN SANDOVAL BOBBY RUIZ JOJO RECENDES ART QUINTANA THE FLYING TYPE STRONG GEENE POOL BEHIND THESE BIRDS 30 YEARS PLUS WORK AS GONE INTO THIS STRAIN
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