maxspin
166 posts
Feb 02, 2008
8:00 AM
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Here is how I look at it.
The argument seems to come up around adds for birds.
Since I am fairly new at rollers, and was trying to determine where to spend my money…..
I can not make it to every back yard that has an add for pigeons.
I look for someone who has a track record. Flying competitions are that record.
All else is just talk and salesmanship!
Keith Maxwell
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gator45juice
25 posts
Feb 02, 2008
12:08 PM
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I agree with you 100% Smoke747! "Put'em Up Or Shut Up" either individual or competition!
Gator
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Oldfart
445 posts
Feb 02, 2008
12:39 PM
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V99, One of my favorite movies. You are correct, of course, but I still seem to remember a scene were that line was used in Bogart's movie. Could be wrong, wife knows I'm been wrong before! ;-)
Thom
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Scott Campbell
13 posts
Feb 02, 2008
11:37 PM
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,"The put up or shut up fly is not new.
It was designed to make THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALWAYS TALKING stop talking and fly something. I myself will compete in any roller fly. It don't matter if its individual or kit comp. I don't even knock the individual flyers for their beliefs.Its just that SOME say they breed for the individual but can't show ONE in the air BUT SEVERAL IN THE SHOW PEN.
I feel if 10 of us kit comp. guys flew against 10 individual in an individual comp. we would win. If we flew in a kit comp., the individual guys wouldn't stand a chance!"
That is about it in a nut shell Keith, a team is assembled with "individules" we don't breed these to break, it is in their make up, if they don't they are either stiffs or have stability issues, if they roll too deep it is due to stability problems and nothing else, such birds either get a handle on it or they avoid the kit in order not to roll.
The difference between hard core flyers and backyard flyers is that we take the flying of these birds serious to the point of obsession, it is all about feilding the best birds that we can breed and fly and nothing else, in other words we put the hard work in where others don't.
When I back off of that work the birds go downhill,if I let my focus get off track, the birds go downhill it is that simple.
Scott
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W@yne
1018 posts
Feb 03, 2008
1:32 AM
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Good to have you back Scotty you wrapped that last post up in a nut shell.
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Regards
W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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fhtfire
1222 posts
Feb 03, 2008
8:51 AM
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Scott...GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK>>>>YAHOOO!!!
I tell you what...Scott is so right about not taking the time with your birds and they go down real fast....when I started my divorce thing...my focus really left the birds...I basically fed them and flew them occasionally and really did not pay to much attetion to them when they flew....and my scores in the first couple of club flies sucked!! but I was not focused....
Now that I have a new HEN and time has kind of healed some things and I have been focusing on the birds again...the kit is 100X better....just by paying attetion to my two teams and moving some birds around...I saw a quick improvement...anyway..good post scott....exept you left the REEFER SMOKING CIRCUS MIGETS>>>>LOL LOL
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Scott Campbell
20 posts
Feb 03, 2008
11:29 AM
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Paul imagine if the focus wasn't there year after rear , then what ? does anyone really believe that you could maintain your stud my picking off of the ground ? .
Scott
Last Edited by on Feb 03, 2008 12:09 PM
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smoke747
748 posts
Feb 04, 2008
12:03 AM
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KGB, SCOT, great post fellas. that all its for.
PUT -EM UP OR SHUT UP its that simple.
smoke747
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Snake Doctor
171 posts
Feb 04, 2008
7:04 AM
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I am a novice, just starting out, hope to compete someday. From the outside looking in and trying to unerstand what is being said, calls to mind advice for life from GrandPOP
"Don't write a check with your mouth that your butt can't Cash"
And then his quote from Walter Brennan, "It ain't braggin if you can do it"
Kit comp or individual? Either or doesn't sound bad to me, why not choose the right bird/birds to do what they do do BEST!
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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