SpinCityRollers
90 posts
Feb 03, 2008
7:47 PM
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Judging bird what happen to the otherside of the spectrum that judges never use and if they do the are considered lose or crazy.
1.0-2.0
what is consider a 2.0
In some cases
It could be a switch wing roller if you havent seen any better.
A couple of flips if that is the norm where you are from and to others they got to blurr out and all roll like bang. Everyone is looking for the perfect kit when will you see that maybe never. So a person 2.0 kit should be the best kit you have ever seen. Then go down from that
I have seen over 500 or more kits in five states over the last 8 years and seen some of the best and seen some of the worst rollers.
That is why they call it judging never going to be exact.
that is why you have get out there and travel get you eyes tune and we need to use the whole scale provided to us.
A judge must have Travel experience he has get ou there and keep his eyes to the sky for a while
1.0-2.0 not only 1.5 and below have you seen the 2.0 yet so how do you know what your looking for!! tell me what you think
Last Edited by on Feb 04, 2008 10:49 AM
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SpinCityRollers
98 posts
Feb 03, 2008
11:28 PM
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talk to me
Madmax2208
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smoke747
741 posts
Feb 03, 2008
11:36 PM
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20 IDEALS THAT COMMIT ON EVERY BREAK FO ABOUT A MINIMUM OF 40' AND MAX OUT AT 60' PER BIRD. IF 1 BIRDS DOES NOT COMIT ON A BREAK AND ROLLS ONLY 15' THE DEPTH WILL/SHOULD DROP.
SMOKE747
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SpinCityRollers
100 posts
Feb 03, 2008
11:43 PM
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kieth you seen that yet !!!
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smoke747
746 posts
Feb 03, 2008
11:50 PM
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HELL NO!! AND I DON'T THINK I WILL.
SMOKE747
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Velo99
1571 posts
Feb 04, 2008
4:34 PM
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You guys remember that commercial with Ken Griffey Jr. The one where he was daydreaming while the ball was coming down the pipe. Those guys practice with the pitching machine set on like 120 mph. When the pitcher throws a 95 mph fast ball it looks like it is moving in slowmotion and they crank on it and away it goes.
Judging kits is the same way. After you see your kit perform, you get used to how and when they roll. You can recognize a certain bird by the way he rolls or comes out of the roll, where he rolls from and any other actions. Once you have established a benchmark,yours and someone elses birds, you have the ability to be a judge. Over this period of time you have learned to recognize both good and bad traits on performance. You have a certain point that you think is a "good" roll or break. Better ones will get better point...
Once you learn to apply the rules of the fly to what you see you are g2g. Now is the time to get more experience by going around and doing the legwork viewing about a million kits. Then you start getting asked to judge the big flys and get a little travel time and FREE BEER!!!
yits
ps cool story: Dale Earnhardt Jr said he could tell whether a nickel laying on the backstretch at Talledega was head or tails. He passes this coin at 198 mph.
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V99
Keep the best. Eat the rest.
Last Edited by on Feb 04, 2008 4:39 PM
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SpinCityRollers
129 posts
Feb 22, 2008
11:50 PM
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I found this on terry duncan site check this out
this is the words from the article and his point system
Quality, Depth, What are the standards we judge by?
Over the past few years most of the clubs are now all flying under “World Cup Rules”. If you want to become a Master Flier the scores you get must be under world cup rules. So that brings us to the standards of quality and depth. Now remember frequency has nothing to do with quality.
When I was in school an A means excellent or above average and A is the top of the scoring curve. F is failing and F is the bottom of the scoring curve. C is in the middle and average witch is in the middle of the scoring curve. Now in quality and depth the scoring curve is 1.0 to 2.0. So what is average? Average to me should be in the middle witch would be 1.4. Why do I say this?
The bottom of the rolling curve is an axle roller with the wings straight out witch I would call a 1.0 or 1.1 with Speed being the factor that brings it to the 1.1. As the wings go up the number goes up. We all should know the different styles a bird can roll so an H pattern with good speed would be 1.4 to 1.5 speed being the determining factor. As the wings get closer at the top and the birds spin faster you get an A pattern. The best is when the ball starts to shrink to a blur witch I would call the blur a 2.0. Now remember five birds must roll to score so we have to average the better style with the lesser style because we are judging the quality of the five birds that rolled. Speed does not have a multiplier so it should be the deciding factor in quality scoring.
With depth it's 1.0 to 2.0 with 10 feet to start with. So is that a 1.0 or 1.1? If so a 1.4 to 1.5 would be 25 to 30 feet?
Doug Brown once wrote "If you stand at one end of a football field and someone took a ball to the go post and dropped it you would see what 10 ft looked like from 300 ft. It's not as deep as some may think. But if the birds are in your face you can see 10 ft. I found this chart on a All Australian Fly score sheet.
Poor 1.0
Fair 1.1
Adequate 1.2
Below Average 1.3
Average 1.4
Good 1.5
Very good 1.6
Great 1.7
Excellent 1.8
Superior 1.9
Perfect 2.0
Last Edited by on Feb 22, 2008 11:50 PM
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Scott
81 posts
Feb 23, 2008
5:53 AM
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Shouldn't the 1.0 be "average" , if you open the door for "poor" to score than potentialy poor can win.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2008 5:57 AM
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ezeedad
345 posts
Feb 23, 2008
2:42 PM
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Keith,
I saw a turn like the one you described... Then I woke up..!! I still remember what the breeder looked like.. LOL..!!
Gomez
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