quickspin
377 posts
Feb 21, 2008
2:22 PM
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What is a nice size for the square perches? I plan on making some were my birds will not get dirty and to have the loft looking nicer.
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SALAS LOFT
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diamondrollers
226 posts
Feb 21, 2008
2:26 PM
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this was a easy way and the birds stay nice and clean
sal
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sippi
60 posts
Feb 21, 2008
2:27 PM
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I have never used square perches. I now us plastic vee perches that clean a lot easier than wood. I order a couple of dozen every month to stay in my budget. By the year 2012 I might have all plastic!!!
Sippi
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sippi
62 posts
Feb 21, 2008
3:02 PM
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Sal I like the mitered boards. Look like they would take up less room than vee perches. Hadnt ever thought of that. Learn something every day.
Sippi
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1184 posts
Feb 21, 2008
3:17 PM
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V perches for me...........
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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quickspin
379 posts
Feb 21, 2008
3:25 PM
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I have V perches and they take more space. My friend has the square perches and has double more birds in a smaller kit cage than me.
They also stay claner the birds.
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SALAS LOFT
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Alohabirds
104 posts
Feb 21, 2008
3:25 PM
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Aloha Salas,
The box perches I use are 9 inch square, made out of 1"x
6". I was told that some flyers make their boxes 7" square to keep the birds from "fooling around" in the perch.
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Aloha, Dexter
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Missouri-Flyer
1326 posts
Feb 21, 2008
3:47 PM
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V Style perches for my birds.
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
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sundance
461 posts
Feb 21, 2008
4:08 PM
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I think I made mine 8 x 8. but its realy up to you. what room you got to work with.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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Sandy91, SA Region 3
199 posts
Feb 21, 2008
4:15 PM
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mine are small and have only 16 & 17 pearches in each they stay close together and some have to stay on the floor.
This one has 22 birds in so more stay on the floor.
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Santandercol
2027 posts
Feb 21, 2008
5:36 PM
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I go with the 8"X8" box perches in a 4ft wide X4ft high X 3ft deep kitbox I have 32 perches but only keep 26 birds in there at the most.1"X4" common lumber works fine.Sand the pieces before assembly and paint 2 coats water based stain.I do a little woodwork in my spare??time and have yellow cedar scraps for my v-perches in the other lofts 1"X6" sand em real smooth with the random orbital sander and 2 coats paint they clean real easy.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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PR_rollers
571 posts
Feb 23, 2008
9:27 PM
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I like the V-perches better birds stay cleaner because they don't lay on there crap.it falls to the side. feet stays clean.can't go wrong .
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Ralph....
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c robbo
109 posts
Feb 24, 2008
1:59 AM
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i like using raills spot on ya birds keep clean and the pigeons bond better.
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sundance
466 posts
Feb 24, 2008
6:01 AM
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what do you mean by rails c robbo?
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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spanky
327 posts
Feb 24, 2008
9:39 AM
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QUICKSPIN SQUARE PERCHES ARE BETTER. V PERCHES ARE GOOD IF YOU LIKE SHIT BIRDS.
SPANKY
SGVS
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luis
668 posts
Feb 24, 2008
9:52 AM
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I don't believe there's a big difference between square or v perches!If the birds don't stand on the perch properly,they'll get crap on them...end of story.I prefer square perches simply because the look better.To me anyways!
Nice kitbox quickspin!Can you make me 1,i need it!!LOL!!
Last Edited by on Feb 24, 2008 8:46 PM
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c robbo
115 posts
Feb 24, 2008
10:21 AM
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box pertchers are crap all thay do is stand in thair poow and thay take to mutch room up thats my apinion. rails are class in my eyes. u never see my rollers with clogs on thair feet. all rails are is a roofing lat mounted to a 2"x2" pice of wood .
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Windjammer Loft
245 posts
Feb 24, 2008
11:09 AM
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Like Louis said its all a matter of preference. In all the yrs I've had pigeons. I have never had any dirty birds with the way I make my V-perches. Here are some samples:
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Feb 24, 2008 11:15 AM
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PR_rollers
576 posts
Feb 24, 2008
12:31 PM
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I don't see how with the V Perches the birds get crap.my birds are clean everyday not one shit on them ..or on there feet,clean to the Tee......check it out windjammer pics,look where the poo is..on the side not on the bird. I have try all and saw this is the best now for more space the others are the best ,but i rather sacrifice space for cleaner birds anytime.
----------p,s, is like having an umbrella on top of you.
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Feb 24, 2008 12:32 PM
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sippi
66 posts
Feb 24, 2008
3:51 PM
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I have to agree that vee perches if wide enough are the best for keeping clean birds. I give my birds a bath once a week at least and clean the floors weekly. Sometimes more here in Florida when it is rainy I just wash the box with a water nozzle. My kit boxes are walk in 3X3X6'6". That way I can go in and handle my birds also. I release my birds by hand most of the time one bird at a time.
Sippi
Last Edited by on Feb 24, 2008 7:38 PM
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RXR Loft
188 posts
Feb 24, 2008
5:35 PM
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Hello ALL...
I use three types in different situations.
The V style, I prefer this style
The square style, these are temporary, I remove them to install the Breeder Boxes
Box style, used in the kit box.
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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quality
5 posts
Feb 25, 2008
10:30 AM
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Just remember the closer the birds are sitting on the perches the tighter they will kit. Your birds spend the most time sitting in their kit boxes, let them get used to being right next to another pigeon or pigeons.
Perch style is a preferrance.
You should always have more perches than birds, never have pigeons sitting on the floor. You will run into real problems if a disease comes through the loft. I have 500 box perches 8" x8" x 3 1/2" deep. Never have more than 150 pigeons at any given time.
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Electric-man
1195 posts
Feb 25, 2008
10:41 AM
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What makes them sit so close together with all the extra perches?
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Snake Doctor
215 posts
Feb 25, 2008
12:20 PM
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I got this from another roller man, I put them in the new kit box that I built, the way it is designed the birds always face the door, (I didn't believe this but it works)
because they are staggered the birds stay clean and they can't reach each other to start trouble.
Has anyone else tried this?
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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PR_rollers
585 posts
Feb 25, 2008
12:35 PM
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Hey Rudy see what i mean about them square perches that white bird in the second picture on the left got a poo poo on it..lol..
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Ralph....
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quality
6 posts
Feb 25, 2008
1:02 PM
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The birds always take the top perches. My kit boxes hold 48 pigeons each for the 3 large ones (old birds). The 3 small ones hold 24 birds (young birds), then I have 270 perches in my breeding loft. I also house the birds in winter for 2 months in my breeding loft. My 2 lofts are at different locations.
This spring I will have 41 old hens ranging from yearlings to 9-10 years old. I have 52 old cocks ranging in the same age as the hens.
I perfer to fly cocks in competition, but do fly my hens for change of scenery.
I have 3 blood lines in my loft that breed 20 to 1 cocks over hens.
My best placement in the World Fly has been 35th with a kit of cocks (20) scoring 735 points.
I use hens to carry my bloodlines in the stock loft.
All my birds are flown for at least 3 years before they go to stock and of my 30 stock birds around 1/2 are prisoners.
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Electric-man
1197 posts
Feb 25, 2008
1:45 PM
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I agree with you on the extra perches! My kitboxes have 24 perches, but I only like to keep around 18 birds in them! Mine get to stressed out acting when its full. Healthier birds in my opinion!
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Val
"Site Moderator"
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Alohabirds
108 posts
Feb 25, 2008
3:02 PM
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Aloha Keith,(Maxspin)
I also have V and box perches and I notice the same thing. I haven't had to scrape the box perches but the V's have to be scraped at least weekly.
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Aloha, Dexter
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spanky
330 posts
Feb 25, 2008
7:20 PM
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SQUARES PERCHES YOU HARLY NEED TO SCRAP THEM. BUT V PERCHES YOU GOT TO SCRAP THEM ALL THE TIME JUST LOOK AT THE PIX ABOVE. JUST MY OPINION.
SPANKY
SGVS
Last Edited by on Feb 25, 2008 7:21 PM
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PR_rollers
590 posts
Feb 25, 2008
9:43 PM
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Thats true spanky .i scrape everyday. but i keep only 15 in one kitbox and 15 in another so its clean in 5 minutes..but i rather clean a perch than clean a bird with shit on his head. ..lol/ ps Val me too i don't like to crowd them in because of stress problems .keep low quantity but quality is what i strive for..
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Feb 25, 2008 9:44 PM
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quickspin
623 posts
May 19, 2008
2:52 PM
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I finally decided to make them here they are. They are easier to clean the the V perches. They also seem to handle more. The V perches I had to replace them ones they got loose.
Front View
Left View
Right View
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SALAS LOFT
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Square
316 posts
May 19, 2008
5:09 PM
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I baisically have all, Box, V, and rail. The rail perches are in my weaning pen, for the reason stated above "Bonding" then they move to the v or box perches. However my 11bird team when assembled twards the fall, they are in a pen with standing room only. Rember the standing room only pen is for short durations, when I can liberate the birds often. I have noticed the best kitting from the team that is in the standing room only pen.. hope this helps, and goodluck this year with keeping those new perches full....
Square
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
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Windjammer Loft
329 posts
May 20, 2008
12:49 AM
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Quickspin.....your final decision looks good. The only problem with box perches that are that big is,their is plenty of roon for them to tread each other on. And that YOU don't want in the kitbox. You may want to consider cutting them down just abite, like 6 x 6. Something like Dexter suggested. Remember,you just want the bird to be able to sit their quietly. ALONE.....LOL They do look good though.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on May 20, 2008 12:50 AM
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