Ty Coleman
97 posts
Mar 22, 2008
7:24 PM
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Im thinking of flying a kit of culls before putting my good kits up to help loss to coopers has anyone tried this and did it help.My first kit today had to stay up for more than a hour but i didnt loose a bird for once but it was real close twice.
Ty
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quickspin
474 posts
Mar 22, 2008
7:31 PM
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I did that and lost all of them. Ones you get hit don't fly for almost 1 week because they will stay and if you keep releasing them and him attacking he will not migrate. Free Buffet.
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sippi
159 posts
Mar 22, 2008
7:51 PM
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Ty if you feed them they will only get worse. Better to lay low than create a cafeteria. You will run out of culls before the Coop runs out of appetite.
Sippi
Last Edited by on Mar 22, 2008 7:52 PM
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Edgar
125 posts
Mar 22, 2008
7:58 PM
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I will recomend that you just wait dont fly cause even if you fly birds you dont care about your still feeding the hawk and by doing that your keeping the hawk in your area.edgar
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2267 posts
Mar 23, 2008
7:21 PM
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Hey quickspin, sippi and edgar, you guys get a GOLD STAR for your excellent advice!
Time was when the response might have been: "shoot, shovel and shut-up". Times they are a changin'.
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bertie
98 posts
Mar 23, 2008
7:30 PM
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Man it really looks like I'm in trouble. Theres hundreds of wild pigeons just a block away from me. Guess I'll never get to fly. There's free food here all year round.
Bert
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ArlenS
87 posts
Mar 24, 2008
12:52 PM
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After locking up since Thanksgiving, I thought it might be safe to test the skies. Weekend before last I flew my cock kit. All returned safely. Then I flew the hen kit. After half were in, a coopers attacked. They all flew off, and four never returned.
One week later, I tried again. I flew my cock kit. All returned safely. Then I flew the hen kit. After about half were in, a coopers attacked. They all flew off, and again, four never returned.
So in both these cases, had I been using a decoy cull kit first, it would not have helped. Perhaps I should have flown it second.
Its hard to get ready for a fly by continuing to lock the birds in and hoping that the coopers moves on, but I have no other alternative. Losing four birds a week is faster than I can breed them. I just hope its not a resident BOP, and I sure don't want to encourage it to become one.
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2008 12:55 PM
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Ty Coleman
104 posts
Mar 25, 2008
1:15 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys.
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Ty
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2272 posts
Mar 25, 2008
8:00 PM
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Hey Arlen, sorry you lost so many birds...
I think you may have your solution in your description of your problem. You say its the second kit that suffers the losses.
You might consider that the first kit is attracting the bop to the area and sizing up the scene. The first kit traps in before the bop has a chance to setup for an attack, now when the second team is released, it is easy pickings.
If you agree with this line of thinking, then your solution may be just to fly the teams on separate days. Or perhaps wait an hour or so and try the second team only after the bop has had significant time to move on.
As I think about it now, on those days that the bop is in my area, the first team has no problems whatsoever, but its the second team that is having their training interrupted (no losses up to now).
I may have to do the very thing I am suggesting that you do...Good luck!
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PR_rollers
727 posts
Mar 25, 2008
8:31 PM
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You right Tony ,I was letting out my first team that haven't began to roll yet thinking hell if i lost one its not like losing one that is rolling already in my other team .but sure enough once i let the second team out they get hit.the first team might have attracted them and went in before getting hit..so its no telling when you gonna get hit ,my best bet now its hawking the area myself and playing with different time of the day or different days altogether..
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Ralph....
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Ty Coleman
109 posts
Mar 26, 2008
3:13 AM
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Sippi raises ORS and ive herd alot of people that have visited him say that he has his residents trained,maybee if you had a second kit of ors would help.I'm trying to find some for myself to see if it will help.
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Ty
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PR_rollers
739 posts
Mar 26, 2008
8:38 AM
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now thats the kit i would fly against BOP not a cull kit but birds that will make the BOP work for there meal.make them suffer a little.
p.s. Ty check out this site
http://www.albertaclassic.net/hawks/hawks.php
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2008 9:00 AM
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