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A Kit Conditioning Feeding Method
A Kit Conditioning Feeding Method
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bigwilly
479 posts
Mar 26, 2008
9:08 AM
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I over heard someone talking about your feeding method during training. Would it be asking to much if you can explain your feeding method during training?
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2277 posts
Mar 26, 2008
10:25 AM
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Hey bigwilly, that information is contained in my publication How To Breed Better Rollers that I first published back in 2001 and is available in our online store. You can read my entire train of thought in there.
However, I will say it is based on providing as much mixed grain as the birds can eat in a measured period of time with the goal of lightening them up without getting too weak (such as breaking them down on wheat only) and flying them not much beyond the 20 minute fly time.
Since I first published that approach, I have modified my technique; I continue to use mixed grains to condition them, but now the week of the fly, I switch them to a 50/50 mix of
wheat and milo. I have observed a marked increase in action!
I don't cut back on measure of grain they get, just the kinds of grains for the week of the fly.
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Electric-man
1352 posts
Mar 26, 2008
10:33 AM
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And that secret ingredient is ?
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Val
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2278 posts
Mar 26, 2008
11:00 AM
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Hey Val, well the "secret" ingredient is the Ruby Roller gene-pool. I say that somewhat tongue-in-cheek! LOL
What I mean is that established families are going to respond to our techniques we devise, and we work our ideas until we think we have one that clicks and we get results we are looking for.
I like a bird that rolls, rolls cause he wants to, he has to, because he is a Birmingham Roller! Not because he has been broken down when proper nutrition has been withheld and tricked into rolling cause he's hungry and weak.
If this is how a particular fancier manages his birds, then fine for him, he will need to continue down this track as it is the process or system he has developed to bring out the roll in his family.
I want a more holistic approach to performance, giving grains in sufficient quantity to maintain robust health (not weakened by having food withheld) but yet in the right combinations and amounts to create an explosion of action on fly day.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2008 11:02 AM
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bigwilly
487 posts
Mar 26, 2008
1:48 PM
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thanks alot
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Alohazona
410 posts
Mar 26, 2008
7:15 PM
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For me its not so much ant ingridient as much as keeping it simple.I feed a maintenance feed on a regular basis that has a little bit of everything.When I look at a performance schedule,it does involve using a singular grain regiment that is totally void of peas and corn.The addition of peas and corn have proved to be the the most inconsistant grain performance wise,do I get performance with these grains ,yes,but coupled with certain weather conditions,ehhh.
One line of my birds,loves good stiff tradewinds,that doesn't mean they need the wind to turn them over,thats just the weather that suits them for performance.Another strain might race around through the same conditions,because they are not as comfortable and probably not as strong of flyers as the aforementioned.So the weather might be more of the ingridient and the feed regiment is more the method,both are crucial for performance of consistant quality.Backing up to the first sentence,the simplicity of your choices for performance,the easier to remember and therfore duplicate.
Thinking back to guys who have flown good in the past,was it the time they put into preparing?Was the secret recipe for flying rollers?O r was it another carefree day of flying your birds?LOL.....Aloha,Todd
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2008 7:19 PM
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Electric-man
1355 posts
Mar 26, 2008
8:50 PM
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Tony, I miss quoted you! Secret weapon is what I meant to write! Your 14 day feeding regiman in the reading room speaks of a secret weapon! Just trying to catch you off guard and get you to spill it! LOL
Keep your eye on me, I'm sneeky!
Val
"Site Moderator"
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2008 8:51 PM
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