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flying multiple lines?
flying multiple lines?
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pat66
131 posts
Mar 27, 2008
4:02 AM
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-How does one fly multiple familys and get kitting-and-style?I noticed alot of guys have 2 or 3 sometimes 4 different lines of birds, does it not take you backwards or make it difficult to maintain?-shouldnt you work with one family and try to get the best?-------- Pat
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ICEMAN710
237 posts
Mar 27, 2008
4:17 AM
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It does not take you backwards in my opinion since the rollermen who have different family's keep them pure to there own family. Flying IMO wont effect style or kitting as its a characteristic of each individual bird. A birmingham roller with good or excellent kitting ability whether a higgins or jaconette will kit and fly with eachother and fly and perform as a whole. Heck, a birmingham roller will kit and fly with a group of homers if it flew with it, although it may be behind at times from the spins. On another note, if you notice youll see many rollermen own differnt families but still have similar characteristics in flying and performing. Its what their ideal is in a birmingham roller. Ultimatley Yes, I would feel it is best to work with one family only or to a minimal where your full focus will be. I see many people have many families because they havent decided which family suits them best. Many people also focus on one family but with many sub families within that particular family.
Just my thoughts coming from newbie, but not so newbie back into the sport.
Gary
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DeepSpinLofts
450 posts
Mar 27, 2008
4:38 AM
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Now that's a good question because the first thing that comes to mind is genetic engineering if the goal is to fly high velocity spinners.
It has been stated that different roller families (lines of birds) have various types of wing-beats which may affect their kitting and team-work capabilities (style) if flown together. I can imagine how this (flying multiple families together) can ultimately affect the birds aerial performance and the way they will be systematically scored (judged) in the competition flys.
My ideal Birmingham Roller pigeon must be capable of.... and rolling in the air approx. 25ft or more in depth (which is the height of the average telephone pole we see) with a tremendous amount of velocity on the spin. Not all families will roll much deeper than this with good style, so it's very important to start out with a superb stock of quality spinners if you want to achieve success.
A good spinner in my opinion is one that is rolling on average at least once per minute.... however... I prefer a crisp clean smooth style of rolling over frequency in these instances. When I say style, I'm referring generally to the form, speed (velocity) and tightness on the roll when a bird turns over rapidly in acrobatic flight with the kit.
Hmm.... let's see now.
If there's something you are seeking and have 2 or 3 families with different styles that you would like to combine together..... then my only thought would be to cross these different roller families together and pay very close attention to the birds strong and weak points. By bridging the gap between strength & weakness you can solidify your family into a more superior hybrid strain if the breeding process is done correctly.
Keep in mind Pat that through genetic engineering (selective breeding) we can modify, structure and scientifically breed future kits of high velocity spinners that carry hereditary traits we all desire in our rolling pigeons. NOTE: Over the years, I've discovered that attaining an incredibly high velocity on the spin is extremely tough and only through selective breeding & proper loft management.... (training/flying/feeding) can this aerial feat be achieved. Our backyards are full of good performers that can and will roll frequently in the kit with good style. ....but
The key in general here is whether or not our birds can spin with proper rolling style and the athletic stamina required to fly in a competition against other well trained kits.
Now Pat, I am by no means an expert in this area. So maybe someone else can clue you in on this subject a little bit better than I can here. Good luck!
Marcus Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2008 6:46 AM
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