George R.
474 posts
Apr 04, 2008
9:27 PM
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If it was to get to a piont where I cant Fly no Rollers I would just Fly Racing homers
I once had a kit of Homers and I never lost one to any BOP In California.
I currently have 3 Pair of White Homers .
Last Edited by on Apr 04, 2008 9:28 PM
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birdman
527 posts
Apr 04, 2008
9:42 PM
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I still have a pair too. Racing homers are awesome birds!
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Santandercol
2268 posts
Apr 05, 2008
6:07 AM
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I have 43 white Racers and fly them every day.Only lost one to a BOP so far this year.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Scott
330 posts
Apr 05, 2008
7:59 AM
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George, I think that is where I would go also,but I doubt that I would have the time or money right now to do it proper.
I can fly around the BOPs here, and now that I have gotten a 8 hr type job every it keeps me from kicking out the birds during migration.
Last Fall not a single Cooper locked in on the loft and they just kept on moving.
I now only have one flyer in my area and we talk once a week or so, when we start getting hit both of us quit flying and they move on.
I am expecting them to start moving through here any day now along with everything else, just gotta fly smart as possiple and not let them lock in on the loft.
Soon there will be baby birds everywhere and then they will start thier slaughter on the baby Songbirds in and out of thier nests
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2008 8:11 AM
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George R.
478 posts
Apr 05, 2008
8:08 AM
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Yes Scott It would just be a Hobby nothing else
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Scott
331 posts
Apr 05, 2008
8:23 AM
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George, I just love pigeons, it is in my blood and has been that way a very long time.
But there are also many show type breeds that really facinate me, Trumpeters have always had a special place in my heart, as have Modenas, not the Mongral Modenas that you see today that are crossed up with show Kings for size and who knows what else for color.
There are German import Modenas that I saw that look to be the real deal.
I think that if I couldn't fly the Birminghams (which are my favorite)I would have several breeds and Racers as the sporting breed.
Some seem to just turn towards mongralizing the Birminghams for weird stuff and color, I couldn't do that to any breed,I just have to much respect for all breeds.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2008 11:14 AM
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Steve_uk
423 posts
Apr 05, 2008
11:13 AM
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I also like many other breeds Modenas,Indian fantails i also like the turkish flying breeds Dewlaps,Kelebeks and Wuta these birds are hawk proof i think, so there will be pigeons after the rollers are lost to the sport like the tipplers to hawks.
Steve...
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Steve_uk
427 posts
Apr 05, 2008
12:20 PM
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I would be more interested to no if they can catch bird flu.
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Fire_Baller_916
202 posts
Apr 05, 2008
12:31 PM
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We should all raise racing homers on the side...That way it'll tire the BOPs out and they'll stop attacking...LMAO
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Chai Seng
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gpigeonman
54 posts
Apr 05, 2008
1:53 PM
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I have 7 racing pigeons I fly them every morning that's when the hawks around here like to pray on my pigeons but the racing pigeon is to fast for the hawk and he gives up. I then go to work come back that afternoon and let my rollers out I've only lost three rollers so far so I guess it works well for me!
Jesus
LRL SPINNING FAST!!!
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ROLLERMAN
212 posts
Apr 05, 2008
4:04 PM
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andrew
They can catch just about any thing that flys.
Coopers they dont waste any time trying to catch a bird in the air . They like to get them as there landing
AL
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2008 4:05 PM
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katyroller
134 posts
Apr 05, 2008
7:25 PM
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Bad news guys, Homers get hit to. They don't get hit as bad as our Rollers but they aren't BOP proof. I have a buddy down the road who races and he tells me his birds get hit by Coopers and Red Tails. I get hit by the Coopers but have never lost one to a Red Tail and I have alot of them around year round.
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LIL RIC
78 posts
Apr 05, 2008
8:04 PM
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i would go back to breeding and jugeing english trumpters i showed and juge for 16 years.
lil ric
westside loft
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Edgar
181 posts
Apr 06, 2008
12:33 PM
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I would rather raise Game cock roosters again love tha sport.edgar
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scatty
2 posts
Jan 08, 2010
5:37 AM
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hi does anyone have the instructions how to make anti mating harnesses please
dennis birmingham
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michael salus
100 posts
Jan 08, 2010
6:32 AM
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Scott, You are right...it's in our blood. Over the past 20 years I have given up on rollers 3 times, but could only stay out a year or two each time. This time I said I would stay and that is my plan, but it is not easy. This year I raised 120 birds. In the last 6 months I have been on lockdown half of the time. I now have 58 birds left, all lost in the last 6 months. It is heartbreaking. The BOP don't leave from here when I lock down , they just feed on the wild pigeons that live a few blocks from me.... they prefer rollers tho. I don't know what the answer is, but it would be nice to be able to fly without the BOP. I have a chance to get some homers from a friend that has some good stock...free.. that might be the way to go for me at some time. I'm already thinking of breeding season and As my dad always said " better days are coming"...
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MJ
Last Edited by on Jan 08, 2010 6:51 AM
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maxspin
375 posts
Jan 08, 2010
8:40 AM
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I got out of homers do to time and money constraints, but still keep in contact with them. They are having just as hard a go of it as we are. In 08 the local concourse had to stop the young bird races due to the high losses. They are having to rethink the way that they raise and fly there young birds. Used to be that you would raise the young early, and either keep them dark to avoid the molt or keep them on light to get them through the molt before young bird race season. Now with the BOP they are loosing huge numbers of these early bread birds due to the BOP.
They are also having many more "smash" races where they lose a very high percentage of all of the birds released for a particular race. Many believe that this is due to falcons hitting the large flocks and panicking them and scattering them.
Keith Maxwell
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JMUrbon
842 posts
Jan 08, 2010
12:28 PM
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I have had homers in the past when I was just a kid and the only downfall I had with them was they didnt fly were I could watch them most of the time. I too also had a mess of modenas and really enjoyed them. I have to say though that the bird of choice for me were I not able to fly rollers would have to be Doneks. The Donek is the first bird to impress me performance wise since the roller. Not as dramatic as the roller but still a thrill to watch. Joe
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STUDENT 2 THE GAME
186 posts
Jan 08, 2010
1:27 PM
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Hey Joe I am looking for some of them locally. I saw them fly at a guys house during a roller fly. Not sure of his name I think it was Bill or Steve, that live by Scott Campbell. If you no who Im talking about I would like to get more info on them....Thanks
Larry
Make It Rain Loft/N.C.R.C.
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JMUrbon
843 posts
Jan 08, 2010
3:16 PM
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Not sure Larry but I have a buddy that flies them up in Red Bluff. I could probably get you a pair if you would like. His birds really dive well. That is were I first seen them perform. I have already talked to him about getting another pair or two from him. I had some about 6 years ago but was to involved in flying my rollers so I gave them to him. I am thinking I would like to give them another shot. Joe
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STUDENT 2 THE GAME
187 posts
Jan 08, 2010
5:11 PM
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Joe , that would be cool I am definatly interested. Thanks
Larry
Make It Rain Loft/N.C.R.C.
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
654 posts
Jan 13, 2010
7:10 PM
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Joe......Does Dave still have them? JDA
Last Edited by on Jan 13, 2010 7:11 PM
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brudahpete
488 posts
Jan 13, 2010
8:15 PM
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I've got a buddy that raises Catalonian Tumblers. He has a serious falcon problem but in 5 years he hasn't lost but a handful of Cats to BOP.
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JMUrbon
850 posts
Jan 13, 2010
8:20 PM
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Yes Joe, Dave is the friend I am refering to. I spoke to him a few weeks ago and he is still flying them. Still has the ones that he got from Rex that I gave Rex. Not that they helped him at all. I thought his were pretty impressive long befor he accuired the ones from Rex. Joe
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