Electric-man
1406 posts
Apr 05, 2008
4:54 PM
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I drew a 7:30 am fly time. I always fly in the late afternoons to evenings! I have 30 days from today to prepair, should I start flying my couple of days a week that I'm off at this time! With my work schedule, there is no way to consistantly train them in the mornings! Plus, I'm worried about the Coops starting to hang out in the mornings!
Plus, I always feed about 30 min before dark! Anything to change there!
Presure is starting to build! LOL Val
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Ty Coleman
185 posts
Apr 05, 2008
5:04 PM
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Val i dont know how to answer your question but maybee this will help. I fly a couple times a week around 7:30 to 8:00 i trape back in with just a handfull of wheat, i fly every afternoon around 5:00 to 7:00 and feed normal then, ive found my birds roll better in the mornings. ---------- Ty Vapor Trail Lofts
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LIL RIC
76 posts
Apr 05, 2008
7:44 PM
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hey val i think that would not be a bad idea i would fly a few days at that time so they can get use to it. and good luck with that. hope tho's dam bop's come in. good luck
lil ric westside loft
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Scott
337 posts
Apr 06, 2008
9:09 AM
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Val, when I get my fly date and time the first thing I do is come up with a game plan, there are several factors that play in, one is the condition of the birds when I plan to put that game plan into motion - It is all about taking our schedule and making the best out of it, same with weather problems ect. , game plan can and do change and we make adjusments for it, my game plans are never cut and dry. You will here all the time that luck plays in huge,with is true to some extent , but what also plays in huge where the luck factor is involved is making your own luck. As for the schedule that you have to work with, if it was me I would keep flying and feeding them after work , to mix it up will throw a loop on them when feed and control is concerned,it is just too difficult to gauge, when setting up consistancy is the key, much more than actual fly time. Certain changes will stimulate them do a degree, and this include drastic changes in fly time(or sometimes it does the opposite LOL) the hard part is once you cut them out that morning you have make sure that they aren't over feed or underfed. Myself, I wouldn't feed them the day before the fly and would feed them fairly heavy (but not over doing it)the day before that,on fly day an hr. before crunch time throw them a hand full of Millet for insurance along with a pep talk and a prayer to the Roller Gods. good luck
---------- Just my Opinion Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 06, 2008 9:13 AM
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JMUrbon
415 posts
Apr 06, 2008
5:20 PM
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Val, Due to work schedules I have always been forced to fly in the afternoons so I have always tried to stay with what has been working and continue flying in the afternoons regardless of my fly time. I would switch up the feed times the days that I rest them the week of your fly day. I have always rested my kits for 2 days prior to fly day. That was a schedule I used all of the time but would change things around in order to get those days of rest in. How ever you decide to do things you will only learn from it and if all works out you will continue to improve each new season.Good Luck, Joe ---------- J.M.Urbon Lofts A Proven Family of Spinners http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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maxspin
205 posts
Apr 07, 2008
11:43 AM
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Val, I have this issue every time I fly club or major fly. Here is what I do…. My old birds are strong flyers so I only fly every 3rd day. If I were to fly on Saturday then Tuesday would be my last fly day. I would feed normal after flying on Tuesday then start feeding in the mornings Wed - Friday. I usually try to get my wife to feed as close to fly time as possible I like 24 hours from last feeding. I have not noticed any loss of performance doing it this way. If I had the time I would want to fly them once in the morning as well, It just doesn't work on my schedule.
Good luck Keith Maxwell
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Electric-man
1433 posts
Apr 12, 2008
6:57 PM
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I have had my team put together for a week now, put them together 30 days out due to the difference in ages, and being unprepared! LOL Only got to fly them together twice due to three days of storms and the high wind days! Got to fly them late this afternoon and they did well, but there is for sure 1 maybe 2 that need to come out! They avoid the kit due to uncontrolled rolling! I will pull them tonight, but I think that I have a couple of young that could replace them!
My question is, at what point should I quit trying to keep adding birds just to make 20! I'm three weeks out from my fly! Most are young birds and I know I'm not gonna make the record books, but would like to see them still work as a unit!
I should have waited till the FF, but my region needed all the flyers it could get and I wanted to give my support! Plus I scored a 7:30 am flytime my first time out! How sweet is that?
---------- Val
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Last Edited by on Apr 12, 2008 6:59 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1502 posts
Apr 12, 2008
7:17 PM
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Val i was swithching birds 4 days before my fly.........lol ---------- RUDY PAYEN PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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Electric-man
1435 posts
Apr 12, 2008
7:52 PM
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The first 5-10 minutes tonight, they were on fire with 10-20' on average depth! After that they were still working hard, but the started waterfalling and shortened up on depth! Definatly low quality but they are mostly young and really just coming in! Some of the birds looked fat after they came down, hard to feed them at so many diff ages! Guess that I should start slowly bringing them back down now!
Got any antacids? The anxiety is kicking my arse! ---------- Val
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Scott
354 posts
Apr 13, 2008
7:43 AM
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Val, feed them in groups depending on condition, I sure wouldn't try and get to tricky, eliminate the boneheads and don't add any more. There are some changes that I need to make with my team,but to add different birds at this point can be very counter productive. ---------- Just my Opinion Scott
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Electric-man
1438 posts
Apr 13, 2008
8:18 AM
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Thank you! ---------- Val
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Mount Airy Lofts
668 posts
Apr 13, 2008
5:56 PM
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Val,
I'm pulling for you. You should do just fine. Young birds are so unpredictable. Give us a fly report... and good luck!!
Thor
---------- It's all about the friends we make :)
Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2008 5:57 PM
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DeepSpinLofts
594 posts
Apr 14, 2008
9:37 PM
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Now that is some very sound advice Joe
====> "I have always rested my kits for 2 days prior to fly day."
My advice would be to simply plan your competition strategy by creating initiatives (feeding, resting ...etc) that allows you to manage the birds emotions and actions before you set them out on the wing. Monitor the top birds behavior versus the unpredictable ones. Be prepared to pull any bird out of the kit if you feel that it can hurt your score with the judges. The key is to stress the birds out... but not too much to the point that they don't do exactly what you expect them to.
MEMO: A conversation across the table from a wise man is better than years of study of only books.... for its true that wisdom is acquired by an inquiring mind.
Marcus Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Apr 14, 2008 9:38 PM
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rollsoffury
43 posts
Apr 15, 2008
11:11 AM
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Hi Electric-man, What i would do is keep them fed with a good balance diet for the competition. Go with your instincts, Do what you have been practicing. Don't try to make big changes near or the big day of. Have fun and good luck. ---------- Roll it
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