redchecker16
59 posts
Apr 06, 2008
4:56 PM
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How many Judges it takes to Certify a SPINNER If theres a amount? What are the judgeing Rules? Any help is helpful thanks.
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PLS
77 posts
Apr 06, 2008
5:22 PM
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I copied and pasted this from the NPRA website for informational purposes...Publisher
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"GOLD CERTIFICATE
Birds will be scored on a scale of 1 to 10 points in the following areas. 10 is the ideal in each area.
Velocity: 1 - 10 points
Control: 1 - 10 points
Style: 1 - 10 points
When judging is complete, the totals on each area will be added and a score. Birds much earn a minimum of 25 out of 30 possible points to be certified.
This certificate is designed for deeper birds that are able to exhibit a high quality performance in the air. Birds absolutely MUST meet the minimum 25 out of 30 points in order to be scored any further.
If the bird or birds meet the minimum 25 out of 30 points, the bird that is being considered for certification will earn an additional 5 points per 10 feet rolled above the 10 foot minimum. Here are some examples:
40 feet = 15 points
50 feet = 20 points
60 feet = 25 points and so on.....
This depth score will be added to the score from the top 3 areas and a total score will be recorded. Birds that earn a minimum of 45 points will receive a gold certificate."
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The is for the NPRA Club...This will give you the INFO you wanted..I believe it takes 3 Judges.
Last Edited by on Apr 07, 2008 5:54 AM
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DeepSpinLofts
526 posts
Apr 06, 2008
5:48 PM
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I went to the website and read the information. After analyzing the data, I have come to the conclusion that I would love the HONOR of earning a GOLD CERTIFICATE from judges that certify spinners.
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{P.S.} Thanks a lot for the site PLS
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Apr 07, 2008 5:54 AM
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redchecker16
60 posts
Apr 06, 2008
9:15 PM
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PLS an DEEPSPINS LOFT Thanks for the Post the INFo, Always wanted to no how they Certified a Spinner.New to the Hobby
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kcfirl
398 posts
Apr 06, 2008
9:41 PM
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The honor of certification is completely dependent on who is doing the certifiying.
Ken Firl
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redchecker16
62 posts
Apr 06, 2008
11:14 PM
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thanks ken so do you have/own any certified spinners Im sure you do a well known name. I did a post Certified Spinners Past & Present just waiting on some pics new to the Hobby
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DeepSpinLofts
527 posts
Apr 07, 2008
1:33 AM
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Yeah Ken... do you by any chance certify spinners?
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You are very much welcome Redchecker16
MEMO: A conversation across the table from a wise man is better than years of study of only books.... for its true that wisdom is acquired by an inquiring mind.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2320 posts
Apr 07, 2008
5:38 AM
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A certification is only as good as the judge's ability to recognize quality.
With all the disagreement especially by those supposed to be in the know over what constitutes the basic qualities of a performing bird over what should and should not be judged, tell me why should anyone trust anyone else's opinion about their own birds?
Be cause of the subjectivity of the matter, I am still left with too much doubt to trust anyone to tell me I have a good bird or not.
That's not to say there are not those qualified, but until they are the only ones doing the judging, I have to wonder about "3 Men And A Pigeon".
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PLS
79 posts
Apr 07, 2008
6:25 AM
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Your Welcome....
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kcfirl
399 posts
Apr 07, 2008
1:54 PM
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I have no certified spinners. I have had birds in the past that judges have offered to certify but I declined.
I am as good a judge as anyone on the quality of spinners I am flying. I never saw the value in the certified spinner program because every one I've seen allows guys to certify spinners that really don't know what one is.
It is more important to me to fly a bird that makes guys go - yeah, that is a very good bird, than it is to have paper certificates.
Regards,
Ken Firl
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Scott
341 posts
Apr 07, 2008
2:37 PM
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(I have no certified spinners. I have had birds in the past that judges have offered to certify but I declined.
I am as good a judge as anyone on the quality of spinners I am flying. I never saw the value in the certified spinner program because every one I've seen allows guys to certify spinners that really don't know what one is.
It is more important to me to fly a bird that makes guys go - yeah, that is a very good bird, than it is to have paper certificates.
Regards,
Ken Firl )
Not many around here give it a thought either, most don't need a piece of paper telling them it is a good one.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Donny James
346 posts
Apr 07, 2008
8:30 PM
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i got the nbrc rule to a bird certified i could send u if u like let me know ................donny james
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Ballrollers
1128 posts
Apr 08, 2008
6:28 AM
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Go ahead and post it donny. Let's look at the differences.
Cliff
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Donny James
350 posts
Apr 08, 2008
8:39 PM
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hay cliff i don't know how to post them can i send them to you and can you post them for me?????????????donny james
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quickspin
491 posts
Apr 08, 2008
10:42 PM
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This was bred my friend Jay Moreno, he is out of roller at this time. He gave me the father for this one and a bird from the 1220 line from Bob Scott. This two were the best in his loft.
He will be back in to rollers soon.
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SALAS LOFT
Last Edited by on Apr 09, 2008 9:47 AM
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quickspin
492 posts
Apr 08, 2008
10:43 PM
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This bird was out of 1375 line cross to a Bob Scott hen. I still have the father for this bird.
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SALAS LOFT
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Ty Coleman
190 posts
Apr 09, 2008
4:03 AM
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I think the program is a good one and should be used more often, good post redchecker 16
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
Last Edited by on Apr 09, 2008 4:04 AM
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Missouri-Flyer
1584 posts
Apr 09, 2008
5:28 AM
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Donnie,
email it to me and I will see if I can upload it here....
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Jerry
Home of "Whispering Wings Loft"
Last Edited by on Apr 09, 2008 6:33 PM
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redchecker16
70 posts
Apr 09, 2008
12:17 PM
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thanks TY,Quickspin an all who responded, your input was very helpful Redchecker16
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Donny James
351 posts
Apr 09, 2008
8:18 PM
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hay jerry what is ur email address so i can send them to u donny james
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gabe454
692 posts
Apr 09, 2008
8:31 PM
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What does it mean to certify a roller what does it do for the bird?
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TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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Mount Airy Lofts
654 posts
Apr 09, 2008
11:12 PM
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Scott, Ken F.,
Question, why not? I like any program that will gather true rollermen to ones back yard. Even if it is to (or try to)certify a certain individual spinner. Heck, I'm shooting for a couple this year myself. I don't recall ever seeing any thing certify since I've join my club. Sad but true. I guess being active means you have to start heating things back up - if that means bring back the certification program. So be it.
Hell, if you are able to fly a 3 plus year old bird and that bird still holds ultimate spins... why not recognize it? We need more birds of this likes for the new guy to see. I am very proud to be flying a few birds I consider outstanding old birds.
I'm all for it,
Thor
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It's all about the friends we make :)
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kcfirl
404 posts
Apr 10, 2008
5:06 AM
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Thor,
oh we recognize them alright! They go into the breeding loft!
Ken
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Mount Airy Lofts
656 posts
Apr 10, 2008
11:11 AM
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Ken,
There lies our problem. It is very RARE now a days to visit a flier and truly see an outstanding spinner with age. We need more of these birds in the air for us new guys to see to keep our head's screwed in the right direction.
I recall one summer when our local club had their August get together. Our current President graciously hosted the event. He had 4 in that lot that were just superb spinners. First real time I had ever witness some one actually flying birds that matched the description of THE TRUE BIRMINGHAM ROLLER.
Thor
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It's all about the friends we make :)
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