quickspin
567 posts
Apr 28, 2008
10:08 PM
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When you get a bird with blood in the eye how long do you have to wait before flying it again?
One eye only the other one was good and she could still see good but you could see a drop of blood in the eye.
Is this bird no good to breed as it will pass this to the offspring?
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SALAS LOFT
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George R.
549 posts
Apr 28, 2008
10:12 PM
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Its a Cull, The Bird has a Major fualt , But some guys like to breed from them they think they spin FAST thats why the blood vessles bust .
of Course if a person always makes excuses and dont fly they will never know of the Fault.
Last Edited by on Apr 28, 2008 10:12 PM
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elopez
1199 posts
Apr 28, 2008
10:41 PM
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George is right. Unless she was everything in the sky and she will help your program then maybe, but she will pass this fault to the young.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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elopez
1200 posts
Apr 28, 2008
10:41 PM
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Oh she should be good to go in a couple of days.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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smoke747
935 posts
Apr 29, 2008
12:02 AM
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Go about 4-5 days rest then put it back in the kit only and not in the loft.
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
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Santandercol
2391 posts
Apr 29, 2008
6:46 AM
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Ya,well,she may be good to go in a couple of days but more than likely it will happen again.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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PR_rollers
990 posts
Apr 29, 2008
8:22 AM
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And if it happens again you can rest assure it would pass it on its gene.......unless it bump up there with another bird.
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Ralph....
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MILO
950 posts
Apr 29, 2008
8:29 AM
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It's a flaw. Try the bird again after resting. If it happens again cull it.
c
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ezeedad
475 posts
Apr 29, 2008
9:32 AM
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Common sense would tell you that it is a major fault and that it should be culled.... BUT..if you are breeding for speed and this bird is the fastest spinner you have, it might be worth taking a chance and trying to breed from it.
After all, your slower rolling birds may have the same physical make-up and it just hasn't shown itself due to their slower velocity roll.
I would advise you to keep it in for about a week to make sure it has healed. The birds I had spun blood once, then there weren't any more problems.
Gomez
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quickspin
568 posts
Apr 29, 2008
10:03 AM
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It's 3 months old hen that was just starting to drop and It seem that was getting faster and faster. Yesterday I saw when she spin and it was fast, then she when down to the roof top quick. After she trap in I saw her eye was red cover in blood.
I have the NBRC Bulletin for January-February 2000 Pg 25 talks regarding Blood in they Eye from the top flyers.
They said that it's weaker blood vessels that can't handle the speed either slow or fast. That the eyes has more vessels than they need so they burst because it's not getting enough blood circulation.
Also that it usually heals in a couple of days and most of the time don't come back. Also some that bred this didn't pass it to the offspring. This was from some of the top flyers comments during that time.
Any of you guys have ever use one of this birds, to know no to use it or just from other people saying not to use them? Because it might pass that bad fault gene to the offspring. Be honest don't say yes you have use it and have not use one.
I'm not saying I will use it unless she becomes my best one in the air. I would like to try them to see if is true or not then I will know for sure.
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SALAS LOFT
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Scott
444 posts
Apr 29, 2008
10:48 AM
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I have had families that threw it because the fault was there and accepted, the birds that I have now havn't thrown one in the 10 years that I have been working it as it was viewed as a fault prior to hitting my hands.
"NO" I would not use one in stock and I would take a serious look at what threw it.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Steve_uk
483 posts
Apr 29, 2008
11:02 AM
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I would'nt say it was a cull rest it up for a few weeks and see how it goes. I think to many people cull birds to fast.
Steve...
At 3 months hold she's still developing!!!!
Last Edited by on Apr 29, 2008 11:04 AM
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119
26 posts
Apr 29, 2008
12:46 PM
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Quickspin,you "hit the nail on the head" A GREAT post,,,LEO had a hot discussion trying to convince a certain fancier of his findings,but found it was no use,and gave up,,but your post just "finished"what he was trying to say.....THANKS...119
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PR_rollers
994 posts
Apr 29, 2008
12:59 PM
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To be honest i never had a bird that had blood in the eyes ,I'm just going by reading on the experience guys that had birds like that, sometimes i rather learn from there mistakes so i don't have to go through them especially if it will ruin a whole line of birds in the future.beside I'm sure you will find another just as fast or good to breed from..
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Ralph....
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ezeedad
478 posts
Apr 29, 2008
1:12 PM
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Quick,
I have used birds from the same blood that produced the blood in the eyes. They were crossed out to my other birds and I haven't seen blood in the eyes since those originals which were highly inbred. I suppose the trait could be somehow lurking in the genes of my birds or maybe I've just been lucky. Those originals were back in 1978-79.
Gomez
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fhtfire
1303 posts
Apr 29, 2008
3:08 PM
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Fly it again...if it continues cull it....it may not be genetics...every animal has blood vessels that pop all the time...even us as humans....I threw up so hard one time....that I popped a vessel in my eye......damn..I am glad that I was not culled....LOL
I think it goes both ways....act of god or genetics...I had a hen that spun blood in the eye...one time...and have never seen it since......I have bred lots of birds...could be a fluke....you have to test and see..
rock and ROLL
Paul
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