chubs
40 posts
Apr 29, 2008
2:12 PM
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Is there any point in letting out rollers in small groups so you can assess them better? I've been watching some vids & i'm buggered if i'd be able to tell a group of similar birds apart.
chubs.
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Oldfart
613 posts
Apr 29, 2008
3:05 PM
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chubs, I have a simular problem, so I fly in small groups after they are kitting well. I have only four colors, red chks,blue and black chks, blue bars, and red bars. It is very difficult to tell who is who! I fly in groups of three of four. One of each color, this along with accurate records helps, isolate good from not so great.
Thom
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chubs
42 posts
Apr 29, 2008
3:16 PM
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Thanks old fart, was thinking this might be the idea.
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Electric-man
1508 posts
Apr 29, 2008
3:23 PM
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I did the same as Thom to put my A-team together! I would fly 4 or 5 together and then I picked the birds with what I thought to have a nice scorable roll in them with the ability to kit well! I put about 25 together and then started watching how they act as a full kit! I see a few that act up as a group, and I have to break them up again and narrow them down to the problem bird! I've done this over and over until now its too late! I have to go with what I have due to I'm competing soon! I still have 2 that probably aren't gonna make the team, they are young and I think they just need more air time than I have to give them!
I think that this will be an ongoing process as long as we compete! I too, don't have a lot of color to pick one bird out of a large group.
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Val
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Snake Doctor
264 posts
Apr 29, 2008
6:56 PM
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Wishing the best for you in your fly Val!
Bonne chance, Mon ami!
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"Semper Fi"
SD
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Mount Airy Lofts
714 posts
Apr 29, 2008
9:55 PM
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Chub,
The best method and still holds true is observation. Observe your birds more in the air. I have found that in the birds I fly, each will have a different wing beat or a different tail flaring when in flieght. Kind of like when a commie joins your team, you can pretty much spot it on site with the different and erratic flying it gives. This holds true if a homer joins as well.
Case in point is a bird that I have in the air right now. I have 4 of same color markings in the team. This particular bird is a Red Bar Grizzle, two are Light Red Grizzles and one is a Lavender Grizzle. Well, the Red Grizzle flies like a homer with heavy wing strokes. This bird all ways stands out verses the others.
If all else fails, I like using Bingo Markers. These can be purchased at any Casino for 1.50 each. An array of colors to choose from.
In my selves, I just chip tails or primary flieght feathers.
Thor
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SAT Roller
112 posts
Apr 30, 2008
1:15 PM
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I have seen birds flying in some kits that were purple, orange, red, red, pink, etc. What they do is use the powder that they dye the chicks with around Easter time.
You can definitely tell which bird is which..
Richard
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JMUrbon
431 posts
Apr 30, 2008
1:21 PM
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One of the biggest problems with flying small groups is that they never act as they would in a kit of 20. I have bred predominantly Rec Reds and black selfs for 15 years and found that the best way to identify a bird is to take like colors and give them each a different tail trim. it is permanant until the next moult and easily identifiable in the air. I have flow kits with as many as 70 t0 80 % self blacks and believe me I went through MANY different ways to identify befor I settled on trimming the tails. Joe
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Oldfart
617 posts
Apr 30, 2008
3:33 PM
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JMUrbon, I mean this question in the most respectful way, so please take it in that vain. What patterns do you clip into the tail feathers and how deep? Does this effect how they fly, roll, or exit from the roll? Once clipped do you maintain the pattern? What records do you keep concerning the tail clipping? Are the patterns repeated from kitbox to kitbox, with separate records for each? I thank you for this interesting information.
Thom
Last Edited by on Apr 30, 2008 5:54 PM
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tapp
563 posts
Apr 30, 2008
7:27 PM
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I clip tail feathers, pull out some in the middle on some and hollowen hair spray others. You should see some of my kits!!! The hair paint comes off with them bathing. I have not seen trimming tail feathers affect the roll.
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Tapp
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