quickspin
582 posts
May 07, 2008
9:48 AM
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When do you usually stop breeding or breaking up the pairs?
As for me I think this will be the last month as if I keep breeding they will not be able to be flown for 6 months.
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SALAS LOFT
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Oldfart
645 posts
May 07, 2008
10:16 AM
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I agree. Around here I think Nov. is pushing the flying season but last year I stopped in early Dec. Big mastake! This year I'm flying year round by trying to fly smart and locking down for short periods after any attack. Thats the plan anyway. ;-)
Thom
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luis
940 posts
May 07, 2008
10:39 AM
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I have done the same in the past 2 yrs Thom but it has proven difficult to say the least.This year i'm breaking them up as soon as i run out of bands wich should be around late July.Late hatches will be flown out until they come into the roll,or into the BOPs belly!LOL.
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quickspin
583 posts
May 07, 2008
10:43 AM
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I can't fly after October that is for sure. If I do they will be lunch so not worth trying to fly them or breed them. The ones I bred after June and kept them in and flown again this year 50% made it and 50% culls as they wouldn't kit. They will kit after 4 months of flying them but by then I could of bred more and made them kit in 1 month so next time I know what to do.
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SALAS LOFT
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maxspin
232 posts
May 07, 2008
11:22 AM
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Thom
Why was if a BIG MISTAKE to lock down?
If I didn't lock down I would not have anything to fly in the Spring?
Keith
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jerries loft
179 posts
May 07, 2008
11:26 AM
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I will probably stop breeding before summer time.I plan on breeding 100 young this year.After october i will not be flying because i donot want to loose them.That way i have something to fly next year.
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Jerries Loft
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Oldfart
646 posts
May 07, 2008
12:44 PM
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Hey Keith,After losing birds to the B.O.P. I went into total lockdown. I have found that by flying smart and staggering flying times and being willing to take the chance of possibly losing a bird the survivors are better.
I'm not saying to just mindlessly feed the sky sharks but short lockdowns and controlled numbers in a kit are less atractive to the prey birds. Will I lose birds, yes, will my breeding program be better, I hope. They are rollers, they fly, that's just what they do.
JMHO, Thom
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tucknroll
34 posts
May 07, 2008
1:33 PM
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Thier are some who breed all year long and never give the pairs a rest. This is hard on them naturally. The best advice you can get is to parrallel it to the natural behaviour of the species. So anotherwards the spring is where they naturally want to breed and the fall is when they hit the deep moult naturally so it is to your benefit to let them go through the course as nature would provide for those in the wilds. The clishe never get caught with you pants down can go hand in hand with the moult of the bird. If you breed them late into the fall and they naturally fall apart to the moult it puts alot of stress on them during this time. You always for health reasons want a bird fully clothed by the winter months for obvious reasons. Have a plan and take the amount if it be 2 rounds or 3 rounds preferably so you can evaluate the offspring and than lock up shop and let them replenish themselves for the next year coming. Stay positive and have fun.
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Santandercol
2445 posts
May 07, 2008
9:28 PM
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Last couple years I split the pairs up after last round in July.Those late hatch birds I had to lock up by late september so they hadn't come into any sort of roll yet but were kitting.I didn't think they would amount to much this spring but holy -hit they are rolling good and kitting like glue now.Not good to let them breed through the moult.3 or 4 rounds is good.60-70 youngs.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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kopetsa
644 posts
May 07, 2008
10:55 PM
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Year round.. I try not to though in November and December though.............
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Andrew
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sippi
225 posts
May 08, 2008
6:46 AM
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My last rounds will be in July. Then the pairs will be broken up til October after the moult. That way they get a needed break.
Sippi
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katyroller
151 posts
May 08, 2008
6:55 AM
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I'm having to reevaluate my breeding program and will most likely break up the pairs around July also. I won't have the number of young that I like to have but I won't be flying year round either. For me the BOP issue could be viewed as a blessing in disguise because it is forcing me to breed from better quality birds.
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fhtfire
1327 posts
May 09, 2008
9:52 PM
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I breed until my Kit boxes are full...I never keep the first round...I am just supersticious...I usually start around Jan or Feb...and breed until about June or July..then I am done...
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Santandercol
2464 posts
May 10, 2008
6:25 AM
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Fire-fighter Paul,
You never keep the first round???I heard the 1st and 2nd rounds can be the best.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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quickspin
598 posts
May 10, 2008
11:51 AM
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I heard the same thing to break the first round of eggs but I always do the opposite. I stay with the first round of eggs and by doing that I got some of the better ones in the first round.
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SALAS LOFT
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fhtfire
1332 posts
May 10, 2008
5:14 PM
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I think the first round thing is an old wives tale....I have had good birds come from every round....it is just a thing that I do...kind of like some NBA playes tie there shoes 3 time before a game...or the Cornelia Marie off of Deadliest catch does a couterclockwise circle if they leave port on a friday...it is all a luck thing...LOL
The real reason is that I usually do not have a lot of birds in the first clutch...lots of singles....and I hate training a small amount of young....and it gives some of the new guys around me a chance to get a round from me to help them get a start on the new year.....so the second round is usually a full round and bam...one full kit box..right off the bat.
Then my last couple of rounds are usually up for sale to whoever wants to try my strain..and the World Cup and NBRC auctions.....that is...only if my breeders are in good enough shape....if they look like they need a break..I will either break one round of eggs so they can rest or I just shut them down.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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